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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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Hello all. I've had my 84 for three years now and I love it.Its a Vette! After reading lots of threads on here and other sights, it seems more people dislike the Crossfire than like it. So figured I would ask for others thoughts on it. I have the crossfire in mine and enjoy it, not that hard to work on, great on gas for an 84. Its not the most powerful vette motor but still fun. Which also has me wondering if anyone knows whats the most power some one has achived with the crossfire? Any way just some of the thoughts that rattle in the can atop my shoulders. Any thoughts happy to hear. Happy Cross Flaggin.
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As long as you are happy, that's all that counts. If I'd found a good condition '84 instead of my '89, I'd have been happy.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 02:32 PM
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After reading lots of threads on here and other sights, it seems more people dislike the Crossfire than like it.
These threads all go the way of the ones youve read so......????
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 03:55 PM
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I had my 84 when I lived in S. Georgia. Wouldn't even turn the tires over in the heat. Air too hot. Brought it back to IN and it ran great! Crossfire loves cooler air temps.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
These threads all go the way of the ones youve read so......????
So...... he's asking for some positive information on the crossfire. There are good things about them. Seems as though on this forum only the haters and complainers about them show up making comments. Give the guy a chance to get some information from someone who actually owns a crossfire right now and has maybe done some interesting mods to it.
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I've always loved it. It put a smile on my face the first time I drove one back in 1984. It's the car that made me want to own a Corvette and I'd buy one today (if it was in excellent condition). Nothing wrong with the Cross-Fire C4 (or C3 1982 for that matter). All that's delivering the fuel is two throttle-bodys. Been used on millions of GM vehicles and is very reliable.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 07:02 PM
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I do not get all the 1984 bashing. If my memory serves me correct, it was the most exciting sports car in its day (1984). Sold a ton! Issues. Yes, but most Corvettes are prone to this reality. I guess there is always an ugly duckling in the crowd. To me, it may be one of the most prominent years in the entire Corvette evolution over 50 plus years.

Super harsh ride, lower hp then its predecessors, lower build quality, and a few other complaints are what I have seen since its inception. Nothing major. These C4's are wonderful values for a first time Corvette buyer who does not want to be encumbered with a small fortune in years of payments.

Personally, I think the 1984 C4's are special. They ushered in a change in direction for the then 30 year old Corvette - "World Class". Bring it on German, Italian, and British high end sports cars. Corvette was ready to take on the challenge. No longer just a muscle car persona. I owned a 66 Corvette and it was amazing. But somehow foreign exotics were immune from the Corvette in handling and braking. This was troubling to me. There were no domestic challengers to the Corvette and it was time to take on the others from abroad. Porsche and Ferrari were awakened.

My feeling is ignore all the bashers. The best Corvette is the one in my garage. I love all Corvettes and try not to judge any on today's standards. In their day, no American mass production competitive model as the ever succeeded against them. Especially over time. Remember Bricklins and DeLoreans. They tried and failed quickly to nudge into Corvette territory.

Once again, the 1984 is a great Corvette. Maybe not the greatest. But the first to change direction. That cannot be denied. Let the flamers come now.

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I have an 84 and am pretty happy with it. It handles way better than my capabilities as a driver and for what is safe for the street. The actual injection system is pretty basic and once set up right, not a problem. The lack of power is not so much the injection system as the small manifold ports, lower compression, and mild cam. I know some guys here have ported the manifold and found a good bit of power. Thus ported, the engine can run at higher rpm's and thereby produce more power.

Historical car that even by today's standards handles phenomenally well. Dave
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I just love watching the gas shooting into the carbs! Hella cool!!!!!
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Epic just like the car!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP7ijUkgc-4

Notice the flat cornering in the "slalom."
The 1984 was WAY WAY ahead of its time. LCD readouts, are now common place. Computerized engine controls are common place, aluminum brake and suspension components are now commonplace. ABS cam in 1986, now commonplace. The technoogy and innovation on the 1984 was FAR ahead of most everyone else at the time. The styling still looks fresh non-corvette people all the time think my 93 is new. Its 20 years old, still looks modern and fresh.

People don't like change, that is way so many hated (hate, see OT area) the C4. It represents the first "modern" Corvette. The C1-C3 are Classic Corvette. C4-C7 are modern to me, if the C8 is mid engine=post modern.

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Glad to see all possitive so far. Just reinforces all the pride and love I have for mine.
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Had my 84 for 7 years It was modified with the Xram manifold, 8746 ECM and free flow exhaust system .The last owner made these mods and the car is a blast to drive. All the crossifre needs is more air and fuel which the stock manifold robs it of. Modified CF's can run in the 13s when set up right.
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Old Apr 6, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ps374
Had my 84 for 7 years It was modified with the Xram manifold, 8746 ECM and free flow exhaust system .The last owner made these mods and the car is a blast to drive. All the crossifre needs is more air and fuel which the stock manifold robs it of. Modified CF's can run in the 13s when set up right.
I've seen the X-ram and people that port their intakes or renagade(if available), just picked up long tubes and hp exhaust and was looking at a new ECM and thinking about a chip. I seen the 8746 listed along with couple others on Ebay, but nothing to tell me the difference other than man. or auto. Mine is auto by the way. Is the 8746 diff. from my stock ECM? If so, how? Thanks.
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I have had my 84 for four and half years now. It still puts a smile on my face when I drive it.......The only thing I have done to mine is put true dual exhaust on it and some C6 Z06 wheels. I run between 24-28 mpg on the highway...good enough for me...
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I had a Bronze two-tone Z51 84 that was my first Vette. I proudly owned her for almost five years. I'm missing it to the point that I want another one.
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Here are the reasons why I love(d) it...
*Underdog; everyone thinks its SLOW (which it is when bone stock) so there is a surprise opportunity there
*Great throttle response, great torque, fun.
*LOTS of mod potential
*CHEAP mod potential (compared to L98 and newer, hp/$)
*Great runner length to match post-ported RPM potential (unlike TPI)
*Good fuel economy
*Easy to work on, and reliable when cared for/understood.
*Unique looking

*And for the '84 Corvette specifically, handling that really hasn't been topped even yet.

Most of the time when people bad mouth one, they do so b/c they never had one/don't understand it/don't "get it".
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Well, since you asked:

C'mon... an all iron, flat tappet, low compression, low revving 205 hp, V8? Pretty much every other iteration after 1984 was superior.

You can get a 90's LT1 car for a song with about 100 hp more- I don't even see the reason outside of sentimental ones to even spend money insuring and registering one of those early C4's. I didn't even really start driving until 1986 so L83's don't have any redeeming value to me.
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I had an 84 for over 20 years and loved the car,never had a CF related problem and the car always ran great.IBTL,some morons got to pollute this thread.[IMG][/IMG][IMG][/IMG]
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The 84 has the unfortunate "negative" LEGACY of being rushed out to market with a "stop gap" engine...the crossfire Injection. Funny no one bitches about the crossfire in their 81 or 82...but when the TPI came out in the 85 & up...the 84 was looked at as the "Bastard Child " of the C4. I think it would have been a "cleaner" transition if GM introduced the C4 with the TPI instead of the Crossfire. We wont even mention the 4+3 Transmission...thats a different scab to pick at....
Now I dont say this to belittle the L83 crossfire...its just that at the time of its inception it was the best technology available. The L98, LT 1,4& 5....and so on down the line . Imagine if GM placed the LT 4 rather than the LS1 Engine in the new C5 design in 97? Forget about it!!!
I agree with others here that it is YOUR Corvette... I have seen many gorgeous 84's at shows and their owners proudly displayed them.
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
Most of the time when people bad mouth one, they do so b/c they never had one/don't understand it/don't "get it".
Ignorance breeds ignorance....
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