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I have not confirmed it but think it's radiator time for my '92. I'm trying to decide which way to go. The car is stock, it's a driver, not anything for competition. On the other hand we do like to go on road trips and may be taking an extended trip this summer. The stock radiator has always been adequate so far.
Dewitt's - Good: Forum sponsor, double the cooling capacity of stock, good reputation from satisfied customers.
Bad: Needs some modification to install (one search result seemed like no big deal, another one sounded like it was more involved). Price about $500
Advance - Good: About $175. Fits right in with no alteration needed.
Bad - probably made in China.
Looking for opinions. Do I really need the extra cooling the Dewitt's brings, and is it worth over 3 times the cost plus the work of modification? Not saying I'm going to go with the "vote" but I am interested in opinions of others here.
The stock radiator is plenty adequate for a stock motor. The cooling deteriorates when junk builds up in the cooling stack -- but that's not the fault of the stock radiator.
In vehicles that I keep stock, I keep the stock radiator. Upgrading is just a way to lighten the wallet, IMHO.
One thing to consider I don't think the parts stores stock the manual transmission radiators anymore. The AT radiator will fit and work in a MT car. But I don't like the idea of the extra tubing for the ATF taking up space or airflow. I really don't know if it is an issue or not.
Mine is an automatic. (I prefer a stick but this way the wife can enjoy driving it too - and she does!)
The Dewitt's site says some modification is needed. "This unit fits into the original mounting however GM did not allow any room for a thicker core and therefore it is impossible to make a true "direct fit". The upper two rubber cushions must be trimmed slightly to accommodate the larger core."
Did a search on here yesterday and found some discussion - this one was from 2006: "Keep in mind that they are not truly a "direct fit" for a 1994..you'll need a dremel and a saw to cut the brackets and shroud to make it fit properly..but overall a great improvement to your car."
I do like buying American, want to support a forum sponsor, and I do like being able to travel with peace of mind in summer heat. On the other hand, if a stock replacement is going to work fine for my application (i.e. no mods, no competition) the price difference is pretty significant.
One further question. We know the LT1 likes to run warmer than most engines. That's the way GM built them, that's what they do. Is there any downside to running cooler? In a totally different application, back when my son raced a microsprint we had to keep the temp up to get maximum output, even had to tape off part of the radiator on cool nights.
Again, I'm not racing the Vette so don't care about every last HP. But are there any other issues with running cooler than intended?
BTW - don't get the idea I'm trying to shoot holes in the Dewitt's. The forum is full of positive comments, which I believe. Just trying to do my homework before making the decision.
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The factory radiator is one area that should ALWAYS be considered for upgrading.
The engine being stock or not makes little difference.
Both configurations benefit greatly.
Last edited by JrRifleCoach; Apr 14, 2012 at 03:12 AM.
The only modification work I had to do is trim the rubber cushions on my '96 when I installed my DeWitts radiator. They supply a template for this minor work. DeWitts provided spacer bars work great on the shroud. I definately recommend upgrading from the stock radiator to the higher capacity unit.
The only modification work I had to do is trim the rubber cushions on my '96 when I installed my DeWitts radiator. They supply a template for this minor work. DeWitts provided spacer bars work great on the shroud. I definately recommend upgrading from the stock radiator to the higher capacity unit.
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Dewitt's will mean peace of mind every time you get stuck in a traffic jam on a hot muggy day. I have seen their displays at the big shows and they are impressive. A DeWitt radiator is on my 91's to do list.
Dewitt's will mean peace of mind every time you get stuck in a traffic jam on a hot muggy day.
Decision made. Not on that post alone, but that is a persuasive way of looking at it. Thanks to all, for the input.
My DD is an F150 and I'm finishing up a couple items on that. When it's healthy again I will pull the Vette radiator and confirm that is the source of the leak. If so, I'm going to spend a little extra for peace of mind, a little more extra to buy American, and a little more extra to support a forum vendor. If replacement is needed I'll go with Dewitt's.
DeWitts is working on a new single core that is larger and will supposedly be cheaper and yet give excellent cooling capability for the LT1. Tom can probably weigh in more on this. The email i got a few weeks ago was that they were playing around with the angle of the fins to help achieve better cooling. I've been waiting since last fall for this to be perfected and become available. I certainly trust them for producing a high quality product made in the USA, Plus they are only about 70 miles from me.
Problem was a crack in the plastic end piece, alongside where the lower radiator hose attaches. I'm sure I'm not the first nor the last for this issue, thought I'd mention what it was in case it helps the next guy.
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Well, actually I did do a bit of pondering and thinking. The dependability factor was the clincher. Ours is not a show car, we put a fair amount of miles on and love road trips. This summer we're thinking of Oklahoma and Texas, and the last thing I want is to break down in West Jockstrap somewhere because something from China saved me a few bucks. The single core sounds interesting but I can't wait. Dewitt's said it will go out today, you can't beat that for availability.
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You'll love it. if you don't reprogram your fans the second fan will only come on when you turn on the AC. Well unless you are sitting in bumber to bumper and not moving for several min
Mine kept the original LT1 cool for my commute. It now has a 383 to keep cool for 20 - 40 min sessions on the road race courses. Love my DeWitts!