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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 09:16 AM
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I have located a rear that may or may not fit my vette,,,
the numbers are on the rear itself, and are:
j842 w022 and 43164 14105119.
I have no idea what it was for except the guy said he thought
it was out of a later 1990's Vette.
I'm looking for a 3:54 rear for my 90.
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by bogart19
I have located a rear that may or may not fit my vette,,,
the numbers are on the rear itself, and are:
j842 w022 and 43164 14105119.
I have no idea what it was for except the guy said he thought
it was out of a later 1990's Vette.
I'm looking for a 3:54 rear for my 90.
Thanks
That's the casting information from a D36 rear cover (bat-wing). That doesn't do a thing other than ID the series and it's certainly not anything you're interested in unless your car is an automatic and you could get it inexpensive enough to build it and then just swap yours out. Now if the owner says it's had a ring and pinion installed then it changes the plan maybe. Is your car presently a D36 or a D44 OR you don't know?
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My car is a 90 with D36 and automatic and 2:59 gears,,,, i want to go to 3:54s. Will the rear from a later model ( if that is what this is ) fit in my car ?
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My car is a 90 with D36 and automatic and 2:59 gears,,,, i want to go to 3:54s. Will the rear from a later model ( if that is what this is ) fit in my car ?
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Any D36 will fit your car. You're going to have to separate the cover from the housing and check the tooth counts on the ring gear and the pinion gear to confirm axle ratio if it's something other than original.

The only D36 3.54 ratio I recall seeing is a Yukon which I believe offers it in both a thick and thin gear. The ratio of the rear you're wanting to add it to would dictate which you need.

To do your present 2.59 you would need a "THICK" gear!

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so there is now way to know what gears are in this rear, unless we bust it open and look ?
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Originally Posted by bogart19
so there is now way to know what gears are in this rear, unless we bust it open and look ?
Not for sure but if you look on the bottom of the differential the original build information should be etched into the housing. Like this:



Some early D36's I don't believe had that.
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 12:23 PM
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Turn the axle shaft one turn and count how many turns the pinion turns. If it is just short of 3 & 1/2 turns, it's probably a 3.45 , if it is just a hair over 3 turns, it's probably a 3.08
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Now there is a simple answer !! Thanks
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Unless it has an aftermarket gear in it, 3.07 is the factory Dana 36 "performance ratio" for the "late-models"). (Early ones can have a 3.31 in them.)
Even going from 2.59 to 3.07 would be a good "seat of the pants" difference.

The standard ratio for a Dana 44 is 3.45. Those came in 85 & up "manual" cars. The 3.08s are in these, too, but the 3.54 is the "performance ratio"
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Originally Posted by johnnymo63
The standard ratio for a Dana 44 is 3.45. The 3.08s are in these, too, but the 3.54 is the "performance ratio"
There was no G92 " perf ratio" option available for D44's like there was for the D36; you got what you were given
4+3 's got 3.07
ZF6 got either 3.45 or 3.54 (also 3.33 in '89 and '90 only )
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ok, guys, i found the rear identification #'s you all talked about:
605490-2 0185
10163876
3:07 46-14
2 Nov 94
I am going to pick it up Sat. $200 for the complete rear minus
the brake parts. What ya all think
I used to be able to post a picture but it looks like they changed something on here, and cant figure it out now.
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Originally Posted by bogart19
ok, guys, i found the rear identification #'s you all talked about:
605490-2 0185
10163876
3:07 46-14
2 Nov 94
I am going to pick it up Sat. $200 for the complete rear minus
the brake parts. What ya all think
I used to be able to post a picture but it looks like they changed something on here, and cant figure it out now.
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I'd say you did well. Now I believe I'd try the 3.07 before I moved to a higher numerical gear. You might be happy as he!! I'd for sure build the 2.59 that's in the car if I thought I wanted a 3.54. The 3.07 will always be an easy sell. Was it outside stored in the weather? How long has it sat? Did you remove the cover and check for damage?
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I'm going to look at it Sat. and check it out and bring it home if everything looks good. the guy had it stored for 7 years from a wrecked vette, I may take some wrenches and just pop the diff from the houseing and take a look inside, but that will be messy, but, i'll take something along. Thats what i thought if i want to go lower, i can
get my 2:59 rear changed and swap them out. It'll make a good road
trip to go and get it
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It says here that I " may not post attachments",,,,, why is that ?
i used to be able to attach pictures to my post and replies.
whats changed ?
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And, here is a photo of the rear i am looking at.

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Originally Posted by bogart19
I'm going to look at it Sat. and check it out and bring it home if everything looks good. the guy had it stored for 7 years from a wrecked vette, I may take some wrenches and just pop the diff from the houseing and take a look inside, but that will be messy, but, i'll take something along. Thats what i thought if i want to go lower, i can
get my 2:59 rear changed and swap them out. It'll make a good road
trip to go and get it
I'd say this rear needs bearings(6) and seals(3) before doing a thing. I'm going to also guess that when the cover is removed the internal gears will be quite rusty. How rusty? Usable? Depends!

I'd say it's still a potentially good buy but it does need some work. It's not just an install and drive off!! The differential gears, washers and the clutches need to be disassembled, checked and cleaned when doing the bearings and seals.
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Yes, i agree,,,, I was planning on removing the diff part and going through it and then just
swapping it out for my 2:59. The rest of the rear, i really dont need, but I guess its always
nice to have spare parts around.
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 01:13 PM
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Well guys, I went and looked at the rear and it didnt pan out ! it was from a wrecked car
that was hit in the rear quarter panel, and suspension parts were broken, one arm ripped the bolt through the diff housing, there was no oil in it, and orange gasket material all
over it where it had been taken appart, so I didnt get that rear.
So I'll keep looking brobably just go ahead and get a new set of gears installed in my
carrier.
thanks for the help
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Next time, the gear internals are "etched" by hand on the housing at the time they are built.....no need to go to extremes to find out what the gear ratio is....just clean the housing on the bottom.


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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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Thanks, guess it was worth a little road trip
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