Some of you guys are following my wide body resto mod on my 84, so you know originality doesnt matter to me at this point, I want to bring this car into the 21st century and ive always enjoyed driving cars with push to start.

my door locks arent working at the moment, the buttons work and i can hear the actuators clicking, and the little levers move slightly but the doors dont lock, so I planned on tackling it all at once.

Plus imagine walking out to your crazy custom vette with a buddy or a date, clicking a button and your car starts up and roars like a straight piped monster of a vette. or jujst walking up to your vette without keys in your hand and the parking lights flash and you hop in push a button and go.

http://www.advancedkeys.com/Prod_AK104B.html

I ran across this, I was looking into keyless entry to begin with because its very handy but with this system you can have everything.

If I did do this I would keep the lock cylinders on the door and a pair of keys as a triple security to electronic failure, as well as the key ignition (just make a removeable cover or something for the steering column key ignition port)

My question is this possbile? I know I can mount the button, remove the steering wheel lockout cable and pin, and the cable that runs to the plunger in the steering column that requires you to have the car in reverse (4+3 trans) to remove the key. Ive already disabled my clutch safety switch because it burnt out on me.

it looks pretty much splice and play to me in addition to disabling the safety features on the steering column

just need to splice into the ignition, brake input, door lock actuators(positive I believe is what our locks are) Possbily would do the auto window closer, so the window motor, and the hazard lights. then hide one of the antennas under the hood and one in the rear where the very rear of the hatch closes.


thoughts? and I dont care if you think its a pointless waste of money time and effort or originality. The interior is already going to be completely different from stock, I have a double din touch screen im modifying the center console to fit, new sound system, making fiberglass door panels, and an 8 inch sub in one of the rear compartments ect. im looking for input from electrical savy people that can think of problems id run into.

cheers!

 

What do you use for a electronic interface to ensure the trans is in neutral?
it's not like you have a P/N switch to tap into if you had a auto

 

I assume you mean what if I did accidently leave the car in reverse or first or whatever and then tried using the remote start function.

I thought about that, Id just make sure I didnt put it in gear before I left the car. Im sure there some wire to tap into that tells the car is in neutral somewhere, which in that case I could splice in a relay in there.

 

We have a remote starter on our manual Subaru. The way it works is, when you turn the key off, if the car is in neutral, it continues to run. If you hit any pedal, the car automatically shuts off, and will not be put into remote start mode. Then, when you get out of the car, and close all doors, and hit the key fob, the car shuts off. From this point onward, if you open any door, the remote starter is disabled until the next time you turn off the car and enable it. This keeps you from being able to remote start the car while in gear. (i.e.- if someone got into the car, and put it into gear, it wouldn't auto-start if you tried later).

And this is a liability issue waiting to happen. You need to be very careful about remote starters and manual cars.

 

Nope.
Only on an auto as I stated above
The clutch switch is the starter safety device on a stick car
You would need switches on the shifter or shifter linkages to indicate neutral position

 

Ya your'e right, there has to be something leading from he tranny telling the car it is in neutral for some functon, anybody know of one?

possibly something on the overdrive unit? maybe something to do with the switches that control what gear your allowed to be in with overdrive?

 

Unfortunately, in order to do remote start (Safely) on a manual, you need a remote start kit specifically designed for manual cars. I read through the installation guide for the kit you posted, and it doesn't look like it is compatible.

I don't know of any remote start + push-button ignition modules that are manual compatible. However, if you forego the push-button, there are several good remote start systems that might work.

 

Why does there?

The computer only needs to know when the car is in gear with a auto so it can adjust the idle speed;
something not needed with a manual car

Just a single switch on the trans that stops the O/d operating in 1st gear.
Not connected to anything in the car ,just stops power to the O/d unit

 

You could possibly get a '84 4+3 side cover that has 1st , 2nd and 4th gear switches
and rework them with relays to provide the lockout , just make sure the trans isn't in 3rd

 

can you elaborate? I have an 84.

 

84 has
a 1st gear switch that is open when trans in 1st
a 2nd gear switch that is open in 2nd
a 4th gear switch that is closed in 4th

Depending on what the remote setup controller requires for out of gear indication; 12V or a ground ???
you would have to design a circuit ( going to need some relays ) using those switches on the trans to give the required signal

 

thats easy enough, make a relay between the starter and the ignition thats only open when the switches from the 1st gear is closed, a second relay in series with the ignition, starter and the relay from the 1st thats only open when the switch from 4th is open, and another in series with that thats only open when the switch from 2nd is closed. theres probably another way to do it but that seems the simplest to me, especially since I get probably get one relay that will do all 3 functions in one unit. sound about right?


I didnt see any requirements about gear indication, if its for an automatic the car is either going to be in park or neutral regardless so.


still doesnt rule out the possibility of starting in reverse or 3rd, more concerned about reverse then third.

another hurdle to jump over, what about putting the car in the "ON" position? so I can check codes, listen to music with the car off ect.

 

From Pg 3 in the installation guide pdf

http://www.advancedkeys.com/docs/AK-PSB05.pdf


Neutral Safety switch
Required for remote start operation , this will prevent remote starting while in a drive gear

Maybe not , some people just turn the key off , pull the park brake on and jump out without checking

 

ohh ok, well I guess you could just run a 12v or ground to it like you said to always keep the switch open. not a big deal. I'm the only one who would ever drive it, so i suppose the risk would be on my shoulders.