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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 10:43 PM
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I know the coil in the TB is to introduce warm air in the engine in cold weather, what does by-passing do. What advantage to the engine. Does it help in hot weather not to have the coil??? By coil, I felt there must be some type of heat exchanger coil or just a straight pipe through the TB


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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 10:56 PM
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I have a 94 and don't know much about earlier ones, but if you don't live in freezing temps than you really don't need it. Mine is bypassed simply because cooler air is better. :cheers:
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 11:02 PM
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I am not sure what you mean by coil?

But the bypass lowers the temp. of the throttle body.

Lowering the temp of the TB then lowers the air temp.
Cooler air = More power.

By itself, this mod is minimal, but it can add up with other mods.
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 11:47 PM
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I am not sure what you mean by coil?

But the bypass lowers the temp. of the throttle body.

Lowering the temp of the TB then lowers the air temp.
Cooler air = More power.

By itself, this mod is minimal, but it can add up with other mods.
I got my C5 TB bypass through Ecklers but I can’t find one for my C4. I can’t even find the tubing at Lowe’s to make my own with either. :(
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Old Jun 10, 2002 | 11:54 PM
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Default Re: Question on TB By-pass (morphious)

I have a 94 and don't know much about earlier ones, but if you don't live in freezing temps than you really don't need it. Mine is bypassed simply because cooler air is better. :cheers:
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 12:55 AM
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GM put it in so that the plates in the TB wouldnt freeze in cold weather. Only problem is it has to get DAMN COLD outside, like Montana-North Dakota in winter type cold, for them to freeze up, and not many people up there drive vettes in winter.

cooler intake charge=more hp, not alot but it helps
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 12:18 PM
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I can’t find one for my C4. I can’t even find the tubing at Lowe’s to make my own with either. :(
I've seen it on the Help! shelf (Pep Boys) as a heater hose connector. It was $2.50 or so. I bought the same thing at Bumper to Bumper with 2 clamps for under $2. :)
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 02:51 PM
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I've seen it on the Help! shelf (Pep Boys) as a heater hose connector. It was $2.50 or so. I bought the same thing at Bumper to Bumper with 2 clamps for under $2. :)
Excellent, now If I only had a Pep Boys or Bumper to Bumper around here. Mayhaps I’ll try Auto Zone. :confused:
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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 03:23 PM
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Chevrolet has it set up so coolant goes through the block and through the throttle body, that way when it gets to something like 20 degrees F it won't get stuck in one position (Imagine going to the track when it's really cold and hammering the throttle, and when you make your run and let off the gas the car keeps going) :smash: . Anyway, when I had a WS6 Formula I did the bypass on my own with quite a few trial and errors. Tubing was always too thick or wasn't able to handle the high pressure or heat. The reason you want to make your own is the pulleys will rub your tubing raw the way that it's set up with kits. I have seen it happen sooo many times, you will want to make your own and route it OVER the throttle body, away from the pulleys. Advice from experience :)


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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 05:50 PM
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I just did mine today...why did any of you need to buy anything? I simply took the hose from the driver's side and plugged it to the tube running up the passenger side under the fuel rail cover. I then put a couple of vacuum caps over the passages that were sticking out of the throttle body to finsh it off. No kit required.
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 12:00 PM
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Excellent, now If I only had a Pep Boys or Bumper to Bumper around here. Mayhaps I’ll try Auto Zone. :confused:
Auto Zone is good and Car Quest has the Help! products too if you have one near you. Even Murray's might even have it.

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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 12:10 PM
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Lowes? Just go to a parts house and buy some 5/8" heater hose. :confused:
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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 12:17 PM
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Any hardware store is good too. Only problem here in Il. is I can get in and out of a parts store 5 x before I was done once at a Home Depot or Menards. They are slow as heck and open only 3 of the 12 regisers.
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Old Jun 13, 2002 | 06:32 PM
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Hmmm. OK so can anyone actually give any figures (hp/temp) on actual improvements? Or is it one of those "just a feel" things? :rolleyes:
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Old Jun 13, 2002 | 06:42 PM
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Anybody know of a manual override kit for a TB bypass? It gets way cool here in KS in the winter, and it would be nice to be able to turn a valve to keep the plates from freezing up in the winter, then turn the valve again to run in warmer temps. Has anyone ever heard of such an animal? :conehead
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Old Jun 13, 2002 | 07:29 PM
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Well, before the mod my LT4 was just fast...and now its really fast!!!

No really, I don't have numbers, and the mod alone probably isn't noticeable, but when you add it to a K&N filter intake, and some free flowing exhausts...it makes a difference.
Think about it...take cool air from the front of the car...but then heat it up to 200 degrees in the throttle??? No sense!!!

I can tell you that after the Hypertech Stat, and reprogrammer, and the TV Bypass, my car never gets over 182 degrees...ever.


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Old Jun 14, 2002 | 02:40 AM
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Old Jun 14, 2002 | 10:21 AM
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Hmmm. OK so can anyone actually give any figures (hp/temp) on actual improvements? Or is it one of those "just a feel" things? :rolleyes:
Actually it's both! :D

A cooler intake charge and a much cooler "feeling" plenum. ;) :lol:
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Old Jun 15, 2002 | 02:04 AM
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I can "feel" any 5hp increase in a cars power. My calibrated butt comes in handy sometimes, lol. If the intake charge is "significantly" (15-20 degrees) cooler than without the bypass, I'd say 5-10 hp, depending on ambient temps. Just a guess though.

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Old Jun 15, 2002 | 02:15 AM
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My calibrated butt comes in handy sometimes, lol. J
Well, with scientific info like that from the "butt guage" I guess I better jump on that! :lol:
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