Need engine help
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this is only great because a normal downshift from 5th to 3rd from a 55 mph street to a 25 mph street IS in fact normal in my book.. i work at gm and i also work at bentley and rolls royce... i am a mechanic, i am not challenged and i know how to drive!! the low oil light went on in my DADS car while he was driving it.... i did all the gen. maint. at his house for him WHENEVER he asked.... so i wanted to go for a cruise with my buddy who lives closer to my dad.. he never said no and has a few fast cars for me to chose from... 03 cobra w/ 750 hp street legal (which i did all the work on for him minus the tune).. and 06 bmw m3 comp series hpf stage 2 kit... and other fun cars all which ive never "blown up" or even gotten tickets in... just wanted to go have a few drinks with my buddy... who i also work with who is a mechanic, was in the car when this freak of an accident happened the reason this is at some guys shop is because i am paying for it because i was driving it when it happened... i am not wealthy... i just started my career a little under 2 years ago, and my father does not trust me to fix it... i know it was 3rd gear bcuz as soon as i shifted, flames went into burst and the car died instantly in the middle of the street... i had water in the car so i used that to put the flame out... when i got back in the car I MADE SURE I DIDNT THROW IT INTO FIRST! totally reitterating the fact that im not a dumb driver.. then i have to tell my dad what happens and of course this was his favorite F#$#ING CAR.. then a few weeks goes by and he calls me and says... "ya know, the low oil light was on for about 3 weeks and i never said anything to you and it went off about 2 days before you came over and i forgot to say something to you. you think that might have something to do with it?" what do you think i said to that... im pissed that i have to pay for this as it is... i dont need people coming at me saying im a liar and to admit some b.s when you dont even know the story
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At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter "how" it happened. Regardless of what you say, people will believe what they want to believe, so what? You know the truth, whether it is as you say is irrelevant to this discussion. What is important is that you are willing to take responsibility and make things right, and that says alot.
That said, if this is a Grand Sport as in blue with the white stripe and special vin, and if it is your dad's favorite car, then, if you're going to do this, do it right. Go through craigslist, e-bay, this forum, where ever you can, and find a good four bolt LTx block. Now, there are some significant differences in bottom end parts between the LT1 and the LT4. So make sure the parts you have are the correct ones. Also, if you or your dad do not already have one, get the FSM for the '96. But whatever you do, don't cheap out and duct tape and glue the engine together (so to speak).
That said, if this is a Grand Sport as in blue with the white stripe and special vin, and if it is your dad's favorite car, then, if you're going to do this, do it right. Go through craigslist, e-bay, this forum, where ever you can, and find a good four bolt LTx block. Now, there are some significant differences in bottom end parts between the LT1 and the LT4. So make sure the parts you have are the correct ones. Also, if you or your dad do not already have one, get the FSM for the '96. But whatever you do, don't cheap out and duct tape and glue the engine together (so to speak).
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It is an original gs #441 and he's already pissed its not gonna be completely original... and I don't want to glue it together I just want to take control of thiz zo he can get his cqr back hea yad it with this dood for over a year already...
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If you work at GM it should be easy enough to have repaired this to where even the experts wouldn't know anything happened..... before you posted on internet where now its out there for ever.
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Time to find a reputable Corvette mechanic, get a flatbed to take the car to the new mechanic, and pay your dues. Or, better yet, ask your dad how he wants this handled, because, after all, it is his rare collector car.
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Cliff notes;
You work for GM
You're a mechanic but can't find an LTx block
You beat the crap out of your dad's cars
You can't drive a standard shift without blowing an engine
You drink and drive
I looked in the for sale section here and found you an LT4 engine with 1,000 miles on it, looks like you've been in the wrong section the whole time.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-p...e-project.html
You work for GM
You're a mechanic but can't find an LTx block
You beat the crap out of your dad's cars
You can't drive a standard shift without blowing an engine
You drink and drive
I looked in the for sale section here and found you an LT4 engine with 1,000 miles on it, looks like you've been in the wrong section the whole time.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-p...e-project.html
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LOL i also said i just started my career too... and yeah... building a car and "adding on" is a lot easier then taking out figuring whats wrong and fixing.... i came here for a little advice on what to do... i do not have much experience and im not looking for a bunch of ****s sitting in front of a computer with nothing better to do then bash some kid whose TRYING to fix his dads car....
I work at steve foley cadillac in northbrook illinois... its a bentley and rolls dealer also.... just cuz i work here doesnt mean im the smartest person alive... but it does mean that i can ****in drive or i wouldnt be allowed to drive cars that cost more than your house....
as for my dads car... its at "some shop" because he sent it there after all this happened.... i have been telling him and telling him this guy doesnt know what the **** hes doing since he brought it here... my dad believed he could do it... until a year passes and every body in my family is asking him where the car is..
my dad lives in florida and just recently moved there... when he moved.... i decided to get this ball rolling myself after he moved... i dont know if he still doesnt trust me to fix it because its been over a year since i even asked...
I work at steve foley cadillac in northbrook illinois... its a bentley and rolls dealer also.... just cuz i work here doesnt mean im the smartest person alive... but it does mean that i can ****in drive or i wouldnt be allowed to drive cars that cost more than your house....
as for my dads car... its at "some shop" because he sent it there after all this happened.... i have been telling him and telling him this guy doesnt know what the **** hes doing since he brought it here... my dad believed he could do it... until a year passes and every body in my family is asking him where the car is..
my dad lives in florida and just recently moved there... when he moved.... i decided to get this ball rolling myself after he moved... i dont know if he still doesnt trust me to fix it because its been over a year since i even asked...
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hello.... i have a 96 GS Corvette.... love the thing... last year i was driving it home.... did a normal downshift to get ready to turn onto my street.... as soon as i downshifted.... pistons shot out of the oil pan and the car went into flames.... i was able to put the fire out and save the wiring harness... but as for the bottom half of my lt4, not so much.... in the past year i have had this guy putting it back together for me but i have a feeling he is jerking me around... about 2 weeks ago i got on the phone with this guy a little disgruntled on what is taking so long with my baby... long story short there is still a crack in the bottom half of the block and now they tell me i need a new bottom half.... only problem is, there is not a block available in the entire country!!! i am looking for a suggestion on what to do basically... i have a guy that can fix the block, for a steep price of 4100. but is there any motors i can put in that will have equivelent or more power to the original lt4... will a ls1 or ls3 fit up to the trans already in the car??? PLEASE HELP
i am looking for an lt4 lower end.... i have ALL the guts.... i just need the lower end... i work at gm dealer and my parts guy looked up the motor through gm and they are discontinued.. he told me that there was no lt4 motor available anywhere in the country... i know thats bs... this is my dads car and im trying to get it fixed for him because i was driving it when this happened.... i need it fixed by mid april and i am willing to pay for the block.... so confused on where to get one tho
I agree.
there are a zillion LT blocks out there; just make sure you get one with the 4.00 inch bore; I scored one off Craigs list out of a Z28 for $75.00; granted it's a two bolt main, but a two bolt main, especially with aftermarket studs, is plenty strong enough for any but the most extreme builds. Or, for $$$ convert it to a splayed cap four bolt main which is stronger than the factory four bolt blocks; rumor has it (which I tend to believe) that heavy duty trucks may have had 4 bolt mains
there are a zillion LT blocks out there; just make sure you get one with the 4.00 inch bore; I scored one off Craigs list out of a Z28 for $75.00; granted it's a two bolt main, but a two bolt main, especially with aftermarket studs, is plenty strong enough for any but the most extreme builds. Or, for $$$ convert it to a splayed cap four bolt main which is stronger than the factory four bolt blocks; rumor has it (which I tend to believe) that heavy duty trucks may have had 4 bolt mains
I agree -- since you just need the block, they are still pretty available in the used market -- you just need to search on-line in the camaro and corvette forums.
Here's one I just found with a quick search:
4-bolt LTX block already machined with new steel main caps for $600
http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/part...eaders-872265/
Here's one I just found with a quick search:
4-bolt LTX block already machined with new steel main caps for $600
http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/part...eaders-872265/
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-p...e-project.html
Here's one. I would go for it if I could right now. Probably the best you're going to find. GM Dealerships only look at other dealerships, so they won't find anything. Classifieds are going to be your route. Good luck.
Here's one. I would go for it if I could right now. Probably the best you're going to find. GM Dealerships only look at other dealerships, so they won't find anything. Classifieds are going to be your route. Good luck.
this is only great because a normal downshift from 5th to 3rd from a 55 mph street to a 25 mph street IS in fact normal in my book.. i work at gm and i also work at bentley and rolls royce... i am a mechanic, i am not challenged and i know how to drive!! the low oil light went on in my DADS car while he was driving it.... i did all the gen. maint. at his house for him WHENEVER he asked.... so i wanted to go for a cruise with my buddy who lives closer to my dad.. he never said no and has a few fast cars for me to chose from... 03 cobra w/ 750 hp street legal (which i did all the work on for him minus the tune).. and 06 bmw m3 comp series hpf stage 2 kit... and other fun cars all which ive never "blown up" or even gotten tickets in... just wanted to go have a few drinks with my buddy... who i also work with who is a mechanic, was in the car when this freak of an accident happened the reason this is at some guys shop is because i am paying for it because i was driving it when it happened... i am not wealthy... i just started my career a little under 2 years ago, and my father does not trust me to fix it... i know it was 3rd gear bcuz as soon as i shifted, flames went into burst and the car died instantly in the middle of the street... i had water in the car so i used that to put the flame out... when i got back in the car I MADE SURE I DIDNT THROW IT INTO FIRST! totally reitterating the fact that im not a dumb driver.. then i have to tell my dad what happens and of course this was his favorite F#$#ING CAR.. then a few weeks goes by and he calls me and says... "ya know, the low oil light was on for about 3 weeks and i never said anything to you and it went off about 2 days before you came over and i forgot to say something to you. you think that might have something to do with it?" what do you think i said to that... im pissed that i have to pay for this as it is... i dont need people coming at me saying im a liar and to admit some b.s when you dont even know the story
if you wanted to know the story there it is.... back to the original topic,, the block.... i need one.. and i have money now... i am in chicagoland area if anyone wants to help and not just come on here to talk trash
if you wanted to know the story there it is.... back to the original topic,, the block.... i need one.. and i have money now... i am in chicagoland area if anyone wants to help and not just come on here to talk trash
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter "how" it happened. Regardless of what you say, people will believe what they want to believe, so what? You know the truth, whether it is as you say is irrelevant to this discussion. What is important is that you are willing to take responsibility and make things right, and that says alot.
That said, if this is a Grand Sport as in blue with the white stripe and special vin, and if it is your dad's favorite car, then, if you're going to do this, do it right. Go through craigslist, e-bay, this forum, where ever you can, and find a good four bolt LTx block. Now, there are some significant differences in bottom end parts between the LT1 and the LT4. So make sure the parts you have are the correct ones. Also, if you or your dad do not already have one, get the FSM for the '96. But whatever you do, don't cheap out and duct tape and glue the engine together (so to speak).
That said, if this is a Grand Sport as in blue with the white stripe and special vin, and if it is your dad's favorite car, then, if you're going to do this, do it right. Go through craigslist, e-bay, this forum, where ever you can, and find a good four bolt LTx block. Now, there are some significant differences in bottom end parts between the LT1 and the LT4. So make sure the parts you have are the correct ones. Also, if you or your dad do not already have one, get the FSM for the '96. But whatever you do, don't cheap out and duct tape and glue the engine together (so to speak).
LOL i also said i just started my career too... and yeah... building a car and "adding on" is a lot easier then taking out figuring whats wrong and fixing.... i came here for a little advice on what to do... i do not have much experience and im not looking for a bunch of ****s sitting in front of a computer with nothing better to do then bash some kid whose TRYING to fix his dads car....
I work at steve foley cadillac in northbrook illinois... its a bentley and rolls dealer also.... just cuz i work here doesnt mean im the smartest person alive... but it does mean that i can ****in drive or i wouldnt be allowed to drive cars that cost more than your house....
as for my dads car... its at "some shop" because he sent it there after all this happened.... i have been telling him and telling him this guy doesnt know what the **** hes doing since he brought it here... my dad believed he could do it... until a year passes and every body in my family is asking him where the car is..
my dad lives in florida and just recently moved there... when he moved.... i decided to get this ball rolling myself after he moved... i dont know if he still doesnt trust me to fix it because its been over a year since i even asked...
I work at steve foley cadillac in northbrook illinois... its a bentley and rolls dealer also.... just cuz i work here doesnt mean im the smartest person alive... but it does mean that i can ****in drive or i wouldnt be allowed to drive cars that cost more than your house....
as for my dads car... its at "some shop" because he sent it there after all this happened.... i have been telling him and telling him this guy doesnt know what the **** hes doing since he brought it here... my dad believed he could do it... until a year passes and every body in my family is asking him where the car is..
my dad lives in florida and just recently moved there... when he moved.... i decided to get this ball rolling myself after he moved... i dont know if he still doesnt trust me to fix it because its been over a year since i even asked...
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LOL i also said i just started my career too... and yeah... building a car and "adding on" is a lot easier then taking out figuring whats wrong and fixing.... i came here for a little advice on what to do... i do not have much experience and im not looking for a bunch of ****s sitting in front of a computer with nothing better to do then bash some kid whose TRYING to fix his dads car....
I work at steve foley cadillac in northbrook illinois... its a bentley and rolls dealer also.... just cuz i work here doesnt mean im the smartest person alive... but it does mean that i can ****in drive or i wouldnt be allowed to drive cars that cost more than your house....
as for my dads car... its at "some shop" because he sent it there after all this happened.... i have been telling him and telling him this guy doesnt know what the **** hes doing since he brought it here... my dad believed he could do it... until a year passes and every body in my family is asking him where the car is..
my dad lives in florida and just recently moved there... when he moved.... i decided to get this ball rolling myself after he moved... i dont know if he still doesnt trust me to fix it because its been over a year since i even asked...
I work at steve foley cadillac in northbrook illinois... its a bentley and rolls dealer also.... just cuz i work here doesnt mean im the smartest person alive... but it does mean that i can ****in drive or i wouldnt be allowed to drive cars that cost more than your house....
as for my dads car... its at "some shop" because he sent it there after all this happened.... i have been telling him and telling him this guy doesnt know what the **** hes doing since he brought it here... my dad believed he could do it... until a year passes and every body in my family is asking him where the car is..
my dad lives in florida and just recently moved there... when he moved.... i decided to get this ball rolling myself after he moved... i dont know if he still doesnt trust me to fix it because its been over a year since i even asked...
