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Old May 22, 2013 | 05:26 PM
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I am picking up a 1990 with 15k on the odo. Oil was just changed. I was thinking of flushing the coolant system. What about brake and clutch? They are original.

Plugs??? It has new injectors from a past issue with stabl.
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Change ALL fluids unless you have confirmation they were done recently. Brake fluid, clutch fluid, trans oil, PS fluid, coolant, diff oil.
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Thanks. Most folks using synthetic??
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Old May 22, 2013 | 10:23 PM
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yep, all syn here Nice find on the low miles, Pics ???
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Sounds as though the car has sat a lot. Consider changing the fuel filter, the flexible brake lines at all 4 wheels and flush/re-fill the brake fluid. I wold also change the upper and lower radiator hoses if they are original and check the condition of the serp belt.

If the tires are the originals, toss them and get new tires. 24-year old tires are going to be rock hard and I would expect to see cracking in the tread and possible the sidewalls.

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Old May 23, 2013 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Racod
I am picking up a 1990 with 15k on the odo. Oil was just changed. I was thinking of flushing the coolant system. What about brake and clutch? They are original.

Plugs??? It has new injectors from a past issue with stabl.
I bought my 91 Coupe last summer. Injectors had been replaced and had regular oil changes. Annual inspection was perfotmed two weeks ago. It passed, however, we discovered the brake fluid had never been flushed. It was almost dark black. The car has 22k miles without any fluid changes. I changed out all fluids and the fuel filter. Brakes were no longer spongy and the performance improved due to the new fuel filter. I should have changed all fluids when I bought it.
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Originally Posted by 92ragtop
Change ALL fluids unless you have confirmation they were done recently. Brake fluid, clutch fluid, trans oil, PS fluid, coolant, diff oil.
100%. I just changed mine (except the diff... still gettin to that). Most of my fluids were black. It's the time that's your enemy here, not necessarily the mileage. Check the condition of all your hoses too... Any of them can leave you stranded...( I just replaced all of mine too)
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Thanks. Most folks using synthetic??
For engine oil, Yes.
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Use synthetic fluids wherever you can, new technology helps our old cars last longer.

Anywhere I can use synthetics I use them, they work better and help the parts last longer because of reduced wear to metals.
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Thanks. I made an appt today. What can I expect to pay to have all the fluids changed??? I usually do my own oil but brakes, diff etc seems like a large job
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Originally Posted by mxw128
100%. I just changed mine (except the diff... still gettin to that). Most of my fluids were black. It's the time that's your enemy here, not necessarily the mileage. Check the condition of all your hoses too... Any of them can leave you stranded...( I just replaced all of mine too)
Great advice!
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Originally Posted by 92ragtop
Change ALL fluids unless you have confirmation they were done recently. Brake fluid, clutch fluid, trans oil, PS fluid, coolant, diff oil.
No. Change all fluids, PERIOD. I don't care if you did them. I want it changed. I don't trust the quality of product you use. When I sell a car, I am not going to put premium stuff in it. If I am forced to sell a car, it probably won't happen overnight so I might be shoddy in the maintenance and use lower quality stuff. Thanks but no thanks. Dump everything.
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No. Change all fluids, PERIOD. I don't care if you did them. I want it changed. I don't trust the quality of product you use. When I sell a car, I am not going to put premium stuff in it. If I am forced to sell a car, it probably won't happen overnight so I might be shoddy in the maintenance and use lower quality stuff. Thanks but no thanks. Dump everything.
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Originally Posted by 92ragtop
Change ALL fluids unless you have confirmation they were done recently. Brake fluid, clutch fluid, trans oil, PS fluid, coolant, diff oil.
Any good trans guy will always tell you not to change the trans oil
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Originally Posted by drag racer 9
Any good trans guy will always tell you not to change the trans oil
Yep. That will make the trans blow apart.

Edit: Unless you perform a virgin sacrifice first.

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Originally Posted by drag racer 9
Any good trans guy will always tell you not to change the trans oil
I was once told by a good trans guy that if you change the fluids and the tranny fails, that the problems were there regardless. I was under the impression from him that leaving the old oil just buys you time. But he did say new oil in a tranny with problems will flush all the gunk out and greatly speed up the failure.

Was this good info?

We dumped everything including gear oil in our 4-speed '76 L-82 (74k miles when bought) when we got that about 12 years ago. And we haven't had any issues yet.

That said, we just got a '96 base-model coupe with 118k miles and I am hesitant to touch the auto-trans fluid. The fluid looks good and smells fine. And if it has any lurking issues, I'd like to wait a few years before having to deal with that if possible.
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Too bad we can't have any real science to back it up. I think it is just a CYA for the trans shop bexause of the "hail mary" customers who hope a trans flush will fix a trans on the way out.
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With 15,000 on the clock I am more worried about the age of the fluid.
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I believe you would be alright with droppng the pan and changing the filter and fluid.. I think what you should avoid are the tranny flushes.....

Good luck
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Originally Posted by Speedjester
I believe you would be alright with droppng the pan and changing the filter and fluid.. I think what you should avoid are the tranny flushes.....

Good luck
Dropping the pan only clears out so many quarts of fluid. Flushing clears out much more. IF the machine is faulty and dumps tons of pressure, sure. OTOH, if it is normal, I fail to see how it can be an issue. Fluid flows throughout the trans under pressure.

I brought it to a shop to clean out the trans by dropping the pan and changing the filter. After which, we flush it to get the older fluid out.
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