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Old Jul 14, 2002 | 08:58 PM
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Has anyone tried dynamat or similar product? I was thinking of putting some under the carpetting of my 1996 Coupe. Are there any places inside the car that I should definitely do? I was going to start with the rear cargo area.

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Old Jul 14, 2002 | 10:57 PM
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Okay dude, http://www.sounddeadeningmaterial.com

It's the supply company for Dynamat, and lots cheaper. It WORKS VERY, VERY WELL. Definately recommended. :cheers:

EDIT: Get the blue stuff. The other things are for other purposes.


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Old Jul 14, 2002 | 11:26 PM
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Thank you GDP. I just ordered a roll.
Looks like a great product at a great price.....I'll post results.

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Old Jul 14, 2002 | 11:54 PM
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I Dynamat'd everything I could when going back together with the '85. I don't think it is as effective as it is on sheet metal since 'glass isn't as resonative but it certainly seemed to help. One thing I did pay special attention to was all the "moving" pieces inside the doors. IMO, GM did a s*** job with C4 doors all the way from the door panel retention (especially at the top) to the internal working pieces and after just a couple years a C4 door sounds like a POS when you shut it. I cushioned all the linkage rods with foam tape and padding and made sure everything was nice and tight and it made a BIG difference on the sound quality of the doors. You get out of it what you put into it so don't be bashful - go for it. -Jeff
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Old Jul 15, 2002 | 06:05 AM
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I put 70 sq. ft. of Brown-Bread in my Vette, I paid about $100 for it on ebay. I put 4 layers on the door frame and 4 layers on the door panel. I also put 4 to 5 layers in the hatch area, under the seats and up the firewall. I also have 1/4" foam padding between the door panel and the door frame.

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It’s a long tedious job to do it right but well worth it in the end. :yesnod:
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Old Jul 15, 2002 | 07:17 AM
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...70 sq. ft. of Brown-Bread in my Vette,
"OK" i give up - what's brown-bread???
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Old Jul 15, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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"OK" i give up - what's brown-bread???
Brown-Bread is a sound dampening material. It is the same thing as Dynamat Extreme only much less expensive. Look at the pics I put up in my previous post and you will see what it looks like. :)

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Old Jul 17, 2002 | 12:55 AM
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Thank you GDP. I just ordered a roll.
Looks like a great product at a great price.....I'll post results.

:cheers:


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:cheers: I have isntalled it on my friend's 1994 Dodge Ram, and it's a night and day difference. Although, we did need to put about three layers on the back wall because it would ring if you tapped it, since it needed on both sides, rather than just the inside, it took more but it's just fine with three layers. A hint: Don't use large pieces, and have a friend help you install it. It's so much easier, once you get the hang of it, it would be easy to do by yourself. Floors and doors are the most important parts to get. Use a utility knife to cut it, and have a spare rag and a can of WD-40 to wash the buildup of the stuff off of the knife. If you need any advice you can IM me or post in the C4 General, I will see it and reply ASAP. :cheers: Good luck. Hope it works out, by the way, how much did you order?
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Does it make a big Difference and would 70 sq Ft enough for 1995 corvette
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Wouldn't that butt a lot of extra weight to the car? I'd be very against that. But, that is whats important to me....
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 02:51 AM
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Does it make a big Difference and would 70 sq Ft enough for 1995 corvette
It makes the most difference the way the stereo sounds. Makes a large difference in the interior if you have a really loud exhaust and you need some quiet. Your doors will sound more solid when you shut them, and it will eliminate any squeaks or rattles you have wherever you apply it. Of course, you would need to apply it between the two parts causing the squeaks, but it works.

Wouldn't that butt a lot of extra weight to the car? I'd be very against that. But, that is whats important to me....
It's not a LOT of extra weight, but it will add weight, yes. A roll is pretty heavy, but it is pretty evenly distributed around the interior, so it would more than likely help weight distribution and help it handle just a little better. It also sticks pretty well if you do it right, and it could stiffen up your car's frame a LITTLE BIT. :cheers:


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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 05:46 PM
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Just out of curiousity (as I don't think I have the motivation right now to do something like this)... To the folks that undertook such a project, were you successful at reducing the exhaust noise and resonances? I was just wondering how well the soundproofing worked as these low freq noises are particularly hard to dampen. I love my car and how it sounds...BUT, you know, sometimes it'd be nice to go for a 3 hour drive and retain the low to mid portion of my hearing...

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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 09:07 PM
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Just out of curiousity (as I don't think I have the motivation right now to do something like this)... To the folks that undertook such a project, were you successful at reducing the exhaust noise and resonances? I was just wondering how well the soundproofing worked as these low freq noises are particularly hard to dampen. I love my car and how it sounds...BUT, you know, sometimes it'd be nice to go for a 3 hour drive and retain the low to mid portion of my hearing...

Jim
I haven't done it to mine. A) The only reason I'd be doing it is for stereo sound quality. B) I have a stock Bose Gold, so until I can upgrade that thing I don't feel it would be worth it for me to do, since I have a stock exhaust.
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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 09:58 PM
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I had extremely good results on my C5 using a product make by Frost King, and the sound dampening spray made by Cascade.

If interested, here is my web page detailing it:

mikemercury.home.att.net/sound.htm


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Old Jul 20, 2002 | 11:52 PM
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i dynamatted my car.. pulled all carpet, seats, door panels.. used the roll's and spray.. worked great.. turned out awesome.. Made my stereo sound a lot better, but i have since removed it :crazy: It sitting on the floor in bedroom :jester
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i dynamatted my car.. pulled all carpet, seats, door panels.. used the roll's and spray.. worked great.. turned out awesome.. Made my stereo sound a lot better, but i have since removed it :crazy: It sitting on the floor in bedroom :jester
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To the folks that undertook such a project, were you successful at reducing the exhaust noise and resonances? I was just wondering how well the soundproofing worked as these low freq noises are particularly hard to dampen.
Jim
Yes, it helps tremendously. It really blocks out road and exhaust noise and greatly increases the db level inside the car. My stereo system is much cleaner and precise now. In layman’s terms, I get more sound from lower volumes.
Also my interior is so air tight I have to crack a window just to close the door or hatch! :lol:

I recommend at least 4 layers everywhere. :yesnod:
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Old Jul 21, 2002 | 08:12 PM
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Very Nice Mike :cheers: I have been considering doing this, now I know I will do it....Thanks for the website. :yesnod:
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Old Jul 21, 2002 | 10:29 PM
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To the folks that undertook such a project, were you successful at reducing the exhaust noise and resonances? I was just wondering how well the soundproofing worked as these low freq noises are particularly hard to dampen.
When I did this to my C5, it eliminated all resonances that were created when I went upgraded to the Z06 titanium exhaust and gutted the pre-cats. The other thing it reduced (almost eliminated altogether) was road imperfection noise. There is a stretch of I-675 in my area where the road department sealed expansion cracks with that tar substance that is about 2" wide and across the entire lane. Every time I would drive over one of those... "pop-pop". And of course it was about every 20 feet. SO it was more like "pop-pop....... pop-pop.... pop-pop...". It was so annoying that one day my wife said to take the long way home to avoid that stretch of the highway. I swear you can drive over a paperclip and hear it through the suspension.

Anyways, with the Frost King treatment these expansion joint repairs are totally silent. Now you can "feel" them, but not hear them.

But the one thing the Frost King material (which BTW is only 1/8" thick... and it lays down very nicely) didn't help with much was tire noise. The Cascade spray in the rear fenderwells made a very slight improvement in tire noise (maybe 10 percent at best); and I'd guess that the Frost King material made about another 20 percent additional improvenment in reducing tire noise.
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Old Jul 22, 2002 | 12:55 AM
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BTW, I came to the conclusion that the rushing/roaring tire noise is "leaking" into the interior somehow; and is not being conducted inside by nearby surfaces.

I was going to use the Cascade/Dynomat products; but I am a cheap guy :yesnod: and didn't want to spend $200 plus for the same surfaced interior treatment using the name brand "mat" offerings.
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