Help with grinding when braking problem
Last edited by SoAlVette; Mar 24, 2014 at 09:02 AM.
Are you sure it's the front?
Any chance the pads or caliper is hung up? The wear should be even.
As you have non-standard rims and tires I assume, have you looked at the inside of the rim to see if there's any rub marks on it?
Grinding happen any time you touch the brake pedal or is it hard braking?
Going straight or turning? If hard, is there a chance the front end is dropping enough for the tire to touch the hood?
Have you checked the front spring to insure it's ok and tight?
Is it possible it's the wear indicator on the pads?
I had a caliper bolt work loose on my one truck, ground some for a little while according to the wife then it fell out (when she told me about it). Bunch of sparks when that happened.
Are you sure it's the front?
Any chance the pads or caliper is hung up? The wear should be even.
As you have non-standard rims and tires I assume, have you looked at the inside of the rim to see if there's any rub marks on it?
Grinding happen any time you touch the brake pedal or is it hard braking?
Going straight or turning? If hard, is there a chance the front end is dropping enough for the tire to touch the hood?
Have you checked the front spring to insure it's ok and tight?
Is it possible it's the wear indicator on the pads?
I had a caliper bolt work loose on my one truck, ground some for a little while according to the wife then it fell out (when she told me about it). Bunch of sparks when that happened.
Grinding is more noticeable below 30 mph, but continuous at slow speeds when braking, and more noticeable when hard braking.
It happens when straight or turning. Not rubbing the hood, and it is not the wear indicator. When I replaced the rotors, calipers, pads and caliper pins, everything looked great. I do have a different wear pattern on the rotors, as I said in my op, the top 3/4" of the rotor show wear different than the rest of the rotor, and this is on both the right and left rotors. Not sure what is going on there, but it is a smoothe wear pattern, just noticeable. I did not suspect the front spring since it happens at slow speed when soft braking as well, the spring really does not come into play.
If the problem is the calipers, hence the different wear pattern, it is a smoothe wear pattern, so why the grind?
Very perplexing.
Very perplexing.
Here are a couple of pics:

Right side, not much wear

Left side, wear on top 3/4"

Another left side
The left side pics show the wear on the top 3/4", not a very even wear pattern. Does not seem like it would cause the grinding that I am experiencing. Does it look like a caliper problem?
Really not that bad of a wear pattern, can't see where that would cause grinding
Last edited by SoAlVette; Mar 24, 2014 at 09:10 PM.
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As you indicate, it appears the pads on right side are making full contact with the rotor while the wear pattern on the left rotor suggests more localized contact on the outer diameter. Considering the different wear patterns I’m surprised that it doesn’t pull when braking – but have experienced weird things before – LOL.
Looking at the left rotor, the machining marks are still visible on the inner diameter, which seems to indicate little or no clamping force in that area when the brake is applied. This inner diameter minimal wear pattern is consistent with the normal brake-off drag that all disc brakes system have. It appears that when applying the brake, the left side pads are cocking around a little and are only clamping on the outermost area of the rotor.
Any chance the left caliper mounting bracket is incorrect or bent? Since you have replaced the rotors, calipers and pads and have accomplished nothing, I’d have to think the problem is somewhere else, perhaps in the mounting or you may have incorrect parts for this model. Who knows what a previous owner may have replaced?
Send me a private message if you want some help. I am a retired auto guy wintering (bored) just across the bay from you here in Gulf Shores, AL and will come over and take a look if you want me to. Not that I know everything but between the both of us, pretty sure we will be able to solve the problem.
Jake - -
Does the inside of the left rotor face have a similar wear pattern? If not, then as others have posted, there might be something trapped between the rotor face and the pad – again, like an anti rattle clip. What is the wear pattern on the pads? While 100% of the pad should be in contact with the rotor it is common for the rotor to extend a slight amount beyond the outer circumference of the pads.
Looking at your pics, it appears the pads are making contact with the extreme outside radial edge of the rotor, both left and right sides. My Corvette is very distant so I can’t see if mine is like this or not, but the disc brakes I’m aware of have a very thin ring of rust on the outer radial rotor face which the pads do not touch. I checked a few cars around here and all have this rusty ring at the outer circumference of the rotor. After a while, this “rusty ring” on the rotor will capture the pads and that’s why the pistons have to be compressed in order to remove the calipers.
Having said that, your rotors appear to have a chamfer/relief on the outside edge so this might not be applicable here.
Any chance your car has a heavy duty brakes and the rotors are just too small in diameter? Have the mounting brackets positioned the calipers too far out from the rotors?
This is not rocket science so surely your problem has been seen before. Hopefully others more knowledgeable than I will chime in with the answer. Again, not a Corvette expert and obviously I tend to over analyze everything.
Keep us posted as to what you find.
Reason I ask is I've seen worn caliper hardware cause grinding noise to transfer to the passenger compartment. The rubber on the slides acts as a dampener to keep the noise/vibration isolated to the caliper.
Worth a look and it also may explain the kind of odd wear on the rotor.
I suggest taking the pads out of the caliper to see what's up.

















