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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 04:29 PM
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I have a 1993 C4 with 138k miles on it. I was idling on a red light, in drive, as I heard a squeaking sound coming from the engine. I then put the car in neutral (as I was still idling at the red light) and the squeaking noise stopped. Then once I put it back into drive after the light turned green, I suddenly heard the squeaking noise again. Could this possibly be one of the pulleys? And if so, if there a certain way to tell which pulley it is?

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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 04:49 PM
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Sometimes you can use something such as a wood dowel as a stethoscope. Have someone inside the car with the brake on while you cup one end to your ear and place the other end up to different parts of the engine. Be careful with moving parts though!
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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 09:35 PM
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Get some belt dressing spray down belts pulies top bottom let sit! Fire up! After driving if you still here squeick it's a vacum leak! Grab WD40 start spraying vacum lines when engine speeds up that's your leak! Just saying bra!
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You can also use a 3' length of rubber vacuum hose for a stethoscope. Move over and around the engine and you'll quickly find the source. The wooden dowel or a long screwdriver with one end on part of the engine and the other cupped to your ear works well for finding an internal noise source. Vacuum hose works well for finding external noise sources.
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Common culprits are the alternator, idler pully and belt tensioner pully. All of these have bearings that can cause noises when they are worn.
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Originally Posted by Rockcrushervette
Get some belt dressing spray down belts pulies top bottom let sit! Fire up! After driving if you still here squeick it's a vacum leak! Grab WD40 start spraying vacum lines when engine speeds up that's your leak! Just saying bra!
- NEVER spray belt dressing on serpentine belts or associated pulleys. vacuum leak = squeak - ??? WD40 - WTF?
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- NEVER spray belt dressing on serpentine belts or associated pulleys. vacuum leak = squeak - ??? WD40 - WTF?
Ok new to me bro! No belt dressing on belts? Then why do they make belt dressing? Wd-40 takes place of small vacum leaks and allows you to find them! I do want to know been doing this for years now and never had a problem! So WTF ?

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I had a lot of squeaking at similar mileage as your car, ended up being the idler pulley. then later had squeaking in my 2001 Silverado, ended up being a tensioner pulley. I say take the belt off and spin the pulleys by hand, both times I was able to notice a grinding/dragging from the bad pulleys, showing which was the culprit
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Originally Posted by Rockcrushervette
Ok new to me bro! No belt dressing on belts? Then why do they make belt dressing? Wd-40 takes place of small vacum leaks and allows you to find them! I do want to know been doing this for years now and never had a problem! So WTF ?
NEVER spray belt dressing on serpentine belts or associated pulleys.
ok BRO - you really need to read my post again, and this time, read it s-l-o-w-l-y - "serpentine" belts. of course they make belt dressing - it's for "V" belts, and nothing more than an old school band aid for worn, glazed, poorly fitted and adjusted fan belts. guess the marketing department hit their target. I'd almost bet the directions on your can of belt dressing states not to use on serpentine belts.
not sure how you equate engine squeaks to vacuum leaks - - new one on me! ...and WD-40??? personally, I would never spray a flammable liquid on a hot running engine, but WTF do I know? anyway, it's your car - have fun -
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Originally Posted by rayou01
I have a 1993 C4 with 138k miles on it. I was idling on a red light, in drive, as I heard a squeaking sound coming from the engine. I then put the car in neutral and the squeaking noise stopped. Then once I put it back into drive after the light turned green, I suddenly heard the squeaking noise again. Could this possibly be one of the pulleys? And if so, if there a certain way to tell which pulley it is?

Thanks,
Ray
Originally Posted by seijack
Common culprits are the alternator, idler pully and belt tensioner pully. All of these have bearings that can cause noises when they are worn.
Originally Posted by littlesk8cracker
I had a lot of squeaking at similar mileage as your car, ended up being the idler pulley. then later had squeaking in my 2001 Silverado, ended up being a tensioner pulley. I say take the belt off and spin the pulleys by hand, both times I was able to notice a grinding/dragging from the bad pulleys, showing which was the culprit
I have a '92 w/about 155k and the same symptoms -although mine only does that when it's fully warmed up. Using a mechanics stethoscope, I determined it was the tensioner pulley. With the belt off, I felt that the tensioner, idler, and alternator bearings were all too noisy and had play in them, so I replaced them all, and looked forward to quiet operation after a job well done (and bad bearings caught before it was too late!).

Symptom remains. I believe that it is the tensioner pivot, so I will replace the tensioner assy (not just the pulley bearing) next.
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It can be tough to track down these types of noises. Hang in there.
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Old Feb 8, 2015 | 08:55 AM
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I vote tensioner/idler pulley assembly as well. Take off the serpentine and crank it up for a few seconds and see if the noise disappears and you will know if its an external accessory pretty quick. If it does stop, spin each accessory by hand and feel for roughness and excessive play.

Good luck!
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Sometimes the steel probe on those engine stethoscopes don't work as well locating some squeaks as removing that piece AND the diaphragm and probing with the open end of the rubber tube. (I wound up replacing a perfectly good PS pump as result. Ended up being the water pump after all.)

As for what to spray on ANY belt suspected of squeaking, good ol' dihydrogen monoxide (aka H2O, aka water) form a spray bottle works instantly w/o any lasting ill effects.

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