C4 PKE question
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C4 PKE question
I have a 96 LT4 that I just received the factory key fob which didn't come with the car. I followed the instructions to a T and the PKE light never came on. I took the car to Chevy and they told me someone installed an aftermarket driver information center?
Can anyone confirm or deny whether this is a stock item or not? Chevy is telling me they have to tear the dash apart to find the part number before the key fob can be paired. The information panel that I'm talking about is installed directly above where the air condition controls are. I'll try to post a picture later after work.
Can anyone confirm or deny whether this is a stock item or not? Chevy is telling me they have to tear the dash apart to find the part number before the key fob can be paired. The information panel that I'm talking about is installed directly above where the air condition controls are. I'll try to post a picture later after work.
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An aftermarket DIC? Huh. What does it look like? Does it match what the owners manual shows? Does the PKE light ever come on?
If the PKE receiver is working you don't need to take anything apart to program a fob. I'm not sure what they are talking about. Unfortunately a lot of receivers have stopped working over the years.
You might check the fuses, 26 40 and 42.
It would help if you listed each step you did in programming (believe it or not, this one time a guy thought he did just what he was supposed to do, but was mistaken) and what happened.
If the PKE receiver is working you don't need to take anything apart to program a fob. I'm not sure what they are talking about. Unfortunately a lot of receivers have stopped working over the years.
You might check the fuses, 26 40 and 42.
It would help if you listed each step you did in programming (believe it or not, this one time a guy thought he did just what he was supposed to do, but was mistaken) and what happened.
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An aftermarket DIC? Huh. What does it look like? Does it match what the owners manual shows? Does the PKE light ever come on?
If the PKE receiver is working you don't need to take anything apart to program a fob. I'm not sure what they are talking about. Unfortunately a lot of receivers have stopped working over the years.
You might check the fuses, 26 40 and 42.
It would help if you listed each step you did in programming (believe it or not, this one time a guy thought he did just what he was supposed to do, but was mistaken) and what happened.
If the PKE receiver is working you don't need to take anything apart to program a fob. I'm not sure what they are talking about. Unfortunately a lot of receivers have stopped working over the years.
You might check the fuses, 26 40 and 42.
It would help if you listed each step you did in programming (believe it or not, this one time a guy thought he did just what he was supposed to do, but was mistaken) and what happened.
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Unfortunately I don't have the owner's manual, but will be doing a search for one online. The information panel looks like a touch screen radio. The instructions for the key fob were to move it 10 feet away. Next it stated to press the trip/odo twice then the fuel/info within 5 seconds. This is supposed to activate the PKE, but nothing happens for me. I'll check those fuses when I get home. It'd be nice if it were something that simple. Otherwise, I'll be going with an aftermarket system.
A couple things you didn't mention. The key should be in, ignition in ON position, doors closed. Also you are supposed to press and hold FUEL INFO until PKE light start to flash, did you just push it and let go?
One more question, do the trip/odo and fuel/info buttons work normally?
Try this for an owners manual
http://justgivemethedamnmanual.com/c...wners-manuals/
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A couple things you didn't mention. The key should be in, ignition in ON position, doors closed. Also you are supposed to press and hold FUEL INFO until PKE light start to flash, did you just push it and let go?
One more question, do the trip/odo and fuel/info buttons work normally?
Try this for an owners manual
http://justgivemethedamnmanual.com/c...wners-manuals/
One more question, do the trip/odo and fuel/info buttons work normally?
Try this for an owners manual
http://justgivemethedamnmanual.com/c...wners-manuals/
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Looks stock to me. If the fuses are OK you probably have a bad receiver, lots of threads here on replacing them, I've never done it. Good luck
I'm not sure I would go back to that Chevy dealer.
I'm not sure I would go back to that Chevy dealer.
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Well this is what I would do then.
Do everything as the procedure states. When you are supposed to get the PKE light just assume it is lit and proceed to the next step.
If it works then you can assume something is wrong with the bulb or light circuit.
If it doesn't then you can assume it is something a little more involving.
Worth a shot.
Do everything as the procedure states. When you are supposed to get the PKE light just assume it is lit and proceed to the next step.
If it works then you can assume something is wrong with the bulb or light circuit.
If it doesn't then you can assume it is something a little more involving.
Worth a shot.
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Well this is what I would do then.
Do everything as the procedure states. When you are supposed to get the PKE light just assume it is lit and proceed to the next step.
If it works then you can assume something is wrong with the bulb or light circuit.
If it doesn't then you can assume it is something a little more involving.
Worth a shot.
Do everything as the procedure states. When you are supposed to get the PKE light just assume it is lit and proceed to the next step.
If it works then you can assume something is wrong with the bulb or light circuit.
If it doesn't then you can assume it is something a little more involving.
Worth a shot.
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I don't think your dealer is knowledgeable with the C4 PKE system. If you say you have followed the procedures to add the remote and it does't accept it this may be the cause: The PKE system will accept up to three remote FOB's. Since you are not the original owner there may have been three already programmed into the system. When you try to add another it rejects it. Apparently as I have learned the system does not "over ride" a programmed FOB. As I learned, You will have to have a knowledgeble dealership erase the PKE systems memory and re-program your new FOB into the system. Realistically, the PKE system in the C4's are finicky.
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I don't think your dealer is knowledgeable with the C4 PKE system. If you say you have followed the procedures to add the remote and it does't accept it this may be the cause: The PKE system will accept up to three remote FOB's. Since you are not the original owner there may have been three already programmed into the system. When you try to add another it rejects it. Apparently as I have learned the system does not "over ride" a programmed FOB. As I learned, You will have to have a knowledgeble dealership erase the PKE systems memory and re-program your new FOB into the system. Realistically, the PKE system in the C4's are finicky.
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karkrazy - unless your bulb is burned out, 95% chance your receiver has failed.
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This is entirely incorrect. A properly working system will accept up to three fobs at one time. When you program a fob it drops all previous fobs and replaces then with those programmed in your latest session.
karkrazy - unless your bulb is burned out, 95% chance your receiver has failed.
karkrazy - unless your bulb is burned out, 95% chance your receiver has failed.
Mark is correct.
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This is entirely incorrect. A properly working system will accept up to three fobs at one time. When you program a fob it drops all previous fobs and replaces them with those programmed in your latest session.
karkrazy - unless your bulb is burned out, 95% chance your receiver has failed.
karkrazy - unless your bulb is burned out, 95% chance your receiver has failed.
I will always admit when I'm wrong. when I had problems with my PKE system and searched through RCU for resolution I came accross a somewhat knowledgeable member at the time who mentioned the PKE not accepting new FOB when three had already been accepeted. Although that was not my problem, I remembered the statement made and passed it along here as a possible solution. In fact, I did think it was a poor methodology for GM to implement but thought anything was possible. I'll remember next time to pass on facts rather than hear say.
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I think you are correct. The PKE system doesn't seem to be on nor will it go into program mode. I've searched and be unable to find the procedure for clearing the previous key fobs. Going to call some of the dealers and see if I can find someone that knows what they are doing.
When I had problems with my PKE system I thought it was the Receiver so, I purchased another from a parts recycler. If you determine that yours needs to be replaced I have one which I would sell to you for exactly what I paid ($95.00 + shipping). Here is the info on the unit label:
Lectron Products inc.
Rochester, Michigan
Model GM202R
Doc: 218 K768
If interested let me know.
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Mark,
I will always admit when I'm wrong. when I had problems with my PKE system and searched through RCU for resolution I came accross a somewhat knowledgeable member at the time who mentioned the PKE not accepting new FOB when three had already been accepeted. Although that was not my problem, I remembered the statement made and passed it along here as a possible solution. In fact, I did think it was a poor methodology for GM to implement but thought anything was possible. I'll remember next time to pass on facts rather than hear say.
Sledge_78
I will always admit when I'm wrong. when I had problems with my PKE system and searched through RCU for resolution I came accross a somewhat knowledgeable member at the time who mentioned the PKE not accepting new FOB when three had already been accepeted. Although that was not my problem, I remembered the statement made and passed it along here as a possible solution. In fact, I did think it was a poor methodology for GM to implement but thought anything was possible. I'll remember next time to pass on facts rather than hear say.
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Karkrazy,
When I had problems with my PKE system I thought it was the Receiver so, I purchased another from a parts recycler. If you determine that yours needs to be replaced I have one which I would sell to you for exactly what I paid ($95.00 + shipping). Here is the info on the unit label:
Lectron Products inc.
Rochester, Michigan
Model GM202R
Doc: 218 K768
If interested let me know.
Sledge_78
When I had problems with my PKE system I thought it was the Receiver so, I purchased another from a parts recycler. If you determine that yours needs to be replaced I have one which I would sell to you for exactly what I paid ($95.00 + shipping). Here is the info on the unit label:
Lectron Products inc.
Rochester, Michigan
Model GM202R
Doc: 218 K768
If interested let me know.
Sledge_78