color wrap??
Melting Slicks
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From: Ashland Alabama
Shows doing a corvette with the stuff.
This site covers the rest of the information you need
http://www.autosupershield.com/color-change-wrap.php
This site covers the rest of the information you need
http://www.autosupershield.com/color-change-wrap.php
Drifting
Joined: Apr 2005
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From: Bellinum Wa
After wrapping a car you get better understanding of cost and reliablity.
If you do this to a C4 expect the materials to run $500 on the low side for low quality Vinyl up to $800-900. That's strictly for Vinyls. Then you need vinyl applicator tools, 2-3 different type of surface knives. A good quality heat gun. Vinyl primer. Knifeless tape and lastly Adhesive primer >$150
If you have a "Vinyl shop" do it expect to pay north of $2000. Possibly as much as $ 4000 depending on the type of Vinyl.
A rule of thumb in Vinyl wraps is to charge x2 retail cost of the supplies for the whole job.
To get an idea if the shop is bogus or not; Best advice I can give you is ask to see cars (not just one) the shop has done at least 6 months ago
FWIW I've done a 3M Satin Pearl White and the look can't be replicated in paint.
If you do this to a C4 expect the materials to run $500 on the low side for low quality Vinyl up to $800-900. That's strictly for Vinyls. Then you need vinyl applicator tools, 2-3 different type of surface knives. A good quality heat gun. Vinyl primer. Knifeless tape and lastly Adhesive primer >$150
If you have a "Vinyl shop" do it expect to pay north of $2000. Possibly as much as $ 4000 depending on the type of Vinyl.
A rule of thumb in Vinyl wraps is to charge x2 retail cost of the supplies for the whole job.
To get an idea if the shop is bogus or not; Best advice I can give you is ask to see cars (not just one) the shop has done at least 6 months ago
FWIW I've done a 3M Satin Pearl White and the look can't be replicated in paint.
Last edited by Hary Gahtoe; Mar 21, 2015 at 10:03 PM. Reason: mis wording
Team Owner
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Vinyl is expensive and a PITA if not applied right, or the surface is not good for adhesion. They will have to scuff your paint to apply it to get a good bond. I'd not recommend it for a street car. I wrapped a moving size truck for my business, it's fine for that. I'd never wrap a car. I would however be interested in and might try the plastidip stuff for fun.
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Drifting
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From: Bellinum Wa
Last thing you want to do is spend $$$'s, have it lift and throw it all away then have to paint the car just to re Vinyl it all over again
You have to have a decent paint job before you can wrap a car otherwise it looks awful and pulls of almost immediately.
Last edited by Hary Gahtoe; Mar 21, 2015 at 02:49 AM.
Drifting
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From: Bellinum Wa
Surface of paint has to be smooth. As in finish top coat smooth for the adhesive backing on Vinyl to stick. Scuffing will allow the Vinyl to lift.
Team Owner
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Not in my application. Anything porous helps bond in almost any situation. I'm not saying his paint has to come off, maybe there is something else out there, but I paid a lot and I would never do it to a vehicle. BTW I had to do some of the prepwork myself, or pay them to scuff since my vehicle was freshly painted.
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Number one rule of Vinyl is the Paint MUST be in good shape BEFORE you can apply Vinyl. Look at both cars in the videos. If you have messed up clear coat Vinyl isn't going to work. You can't apply over anything besides a baby smooth hard topcoat. You can't just sand down a bad paint or clear coat. Vinyl won't stick. It bubbles and peels. It'll literally lift the paint right off the car with the Vinyl stuck to it. Think of it in terms of putting something on top of your paint and pulling hard on the topcoat to apply it. Vinyl is so thin it'll show alot of paint imperfections as well
Last thing you want to do is spend $$$'s, have it lift and throw it all away then have to paint the car just to re Vinyl it all over again
You have to have a decent paint job before you can wrap a car otherwise it looks awful and pulls of almost immediately.
Last thing you want to do is spend $$$'s, have it lift and throw it all away then have to paint the car just to re Vinyl it all over again
You have to have a decent paint job before you can wrap a car otherwise it looks awful and pulls of almost immediately.
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After wrapping a car you get better understanding of cost and raliablity.
If you do this to a C4 expect the materials to run $500 on the low side for low quality Vinyl up to $800-900. That's strictly for Vinyls. Then you need vinyl applicator tools, 2-3 different type of surface knives. A good quality heat gun. Vinyl primer. Knifeless tape and lastly Adhesive primer >$150
If you have a "Vinyl shop" do it expect to pay north of $2000. Possibly as much as $ 4000 depending on the type of Vinyl.
A rule of thumb in Vinyl wraps is to charge x2 retail cost of the supplies for the whole job.
To get an idea if the shop is bogus or not; Best advice I can give you is ask to see cars (not just one) the shop has done at least 6 months ago
FWIW I've done a 3M Satin Pearl White and the look can't be replicated in paint.
If you do this to a C4 expect the materials to run $500 on the low side for low quality Vinyl up to $800-900. That's strictly for Vinyls. Then you need vinyl applicator tools, 2-3 different type of surface knives. A good quality heat gun. Vinyl primer. Knifeless tape and lastly Adhesive primer >$150
If you have a "Vinyl shop" do it expect to pay north of $2000. Possibly as much as $ 4000 depending on the type of Vinyl.
A rule of thumb in Vinyl wraps is to charge x2 retail cost of the supplies for the whole job.
To get an idea if the shop is bogus or not; Best advice I can give you is ask to see cars (not just one) the shop has done at least 6 months ago
FWIW I've done a 3M Satin Pearl White and the look can't be replicated in paint.
Drifting
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From: Bellinum Wa
Vinyl specifically made like the material in those video (aftermarket auto body style)won't stick to anything but finished glossy wet look top coat paint. You can't scuff the surface paint or put primer on top. It won't stick. Look at the cars in the video. Smooth finished paint. A Vinyl shop will refuse because they don't want bad jobs reflecting on their good work. Bottom line is it reflects on the installer. If you're OK with it peeling right away or shortly after, It's your car
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Vinyl specifically made like the material in those video (aftermarket auto body style)won't stick to anything but finished glossy wet look top coat paint. You can't scuff the surface paint or put primer on top. It won't stick. Look at the cars in the video. Smooth finished paint. A Vinyl shop will refuse because they don't want bad jobs reflecting on their good work. Bottom line is it reflects on the installer. If you're OK with it peeling right away or shortly after, It's your car
Racer
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Think about the future, in 5-7 years of this stuff being baked onto your car, do you have any concept of what it takes to remove it?
If you don't then go to a shop that does this and tell them you have a wrapped van thats 8 years old and get a quote to get the crap removed.
I wouldn't put it on a car you intend to keep.
If you don't then go to a shop that does this and tell them you have a wrapped van thats 8 years old and get a quote to get the crap removed.
I wouldn't put it on a car you intend to keep.
Drifting
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From: Bellinum Wa
Primer can and will go onto those surfaces but trust me, Vinyl wrap material won't stick to it and will even peel the primer and possibly some of your cars paint with it. Don't believe me. You'll end up ruining the Vinyl and hating the whole experience but some have to find out the hard way
Good Luck
Good Luck
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Think about the future, in 5-7 years of this stuff being baked onto your car, do you have any concept of what it takes to remove it?
If you don't then go to a shop that does this and tell them you have a wrapped van thats 8 years old and get a quote to get the crap removed.
I wouldn't put it on a car you intend to keep.
If you don't then go to a shop that does this and tell them you have a wrapped van thats 8 years old and get a quote to get the crap removed.
I wouldn't put it on a car you intend to keep.
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Primer can and will go onto those surfaces but trust me, Vinyl wrap material won't stick to it and will even peel the primer and possibly some of your cars paint with it. Don't believe me. You'll end up ruining the Vinyl and hating the whole experience but some have to find out the hard way
Good Luck
Good Luck
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The 3m 94 is for makeing the vinly wrap stick better in tight curves