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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 01:51 PM
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Having issues that seem like vats (no crank, fuel pump relay tapped to positive on battery for power, and fans are on toggle) I bought it this way. I can get it to start if I mess with it long enough turning key while it's on a battery charger... Hmm?
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Having issues that seem like vats (no crank, fuel pump relay tapped to positive on battery for power, and fans are on toggle) I bought it this way. I can get it to start if I mess with it long enough turning key while it's on a battery charger... Hmm?
no vats on that one
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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 02:04 PM
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Thank you, I've ruled it out 3 times now it's completely ruled out. If the starter works on a battery charger when jumping terminals with screwdriver but doesn't work on the car (hooked up to battery charger also) and doing the same thing with screwdriver jumping terminals and knowing that it has power needed does it mean the ground to starter is bad?
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Does this also mean that I do not have a starter enable relay behind the dic?
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You do have a start enable relay.


Originally Posted by White84C4
Thank you, I've ruled it out 3 times now it's completely ruled out. If the starter works on a battery charger when jumping terminals with screwdriver but doesn't work on the car (hooked up to battery charger also) and doing the same thing with screwdriver jumping terminals and knowing that it has power needed does it mean the ground to starter is bad?
No. The starter ground is where it is bolted to the engine.

Youre problem is either
1. ignition switch
2. Start enable relay
3. P/N safety start switch -or Clutch switch if it's a stick shift.
4. Wiring, most likely on the passenger's side by the block, where it goes down near the exhaust.

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Old Jul 21, 2015 | 05:37 PM
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Might have a bad battery have a load test done
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The battery in it is very weak but even with 200amp start battery charger I get the same outcome. Can a bad battery reading 13.5 volts on a 40amp steady charge still not turn the car over?
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Possibly....but not probably. Still, best to make sure of the basics, first.

Could you hook to another car w/jumper cables? If you have good cables, and good connections, then you should have more than enough cranking power.
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For any of this to work/function you need to have a fully functioning key cylinder, rod/rack and ignition switch function. In another thread you mentioned I believe you have issues with the "mechanicals" of that.
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Ahh yes...^that^ could be very important information in a thread like this.

I always wonder, in these "it won't crank" threads, why people don't get out a test light or volt meter, and simply start testing the circuit. DOes it have power leaving the ignition switch? The Safety switch? The Start rely? Then down to the starter solenoid? At some point, there won't be power. Fix that.
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI
Ahh yes...^that^ could be very important information in a thread like this.

I always wonder, in these "it won't crank" threads, why people don't get out a test light or volt meter, and simply start testing the circuit. DOes it have power leaving the ignition switch? The Safety switch? The Start rely? Then down to the starter solenoid? At some point, there won't be power. Fix that.
This +1

That's basic electronic circuit troubleshooting...
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