FUN....vs. Fast
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From: Park City Utah
No one does. 
My original "epiphany" from this video was that a faster car isn't necessarily better. I used to think that "what a car can do is what matters". I went out and bought a C6 b/c of what it can do. It did a lot, numbers wise, but for me, was no fun.
Now here is a vid where one car "what it can do", pretty much trumps the other car in every objective way. Does that make it a better car? Not only no, but HELL NO! Excuse me, I'm in UT, so "heck" no!
My original "epiphany" from this video was that a faster car isn't necessarily better. I used to think that "what a car can do is what matters". I went out and bought a C6 b/c of what it can do. It did a lot, numbers wise, but for me, was no fun.
Now here is a vid where one car "what it can do", pretty much trumps the other car in every objective way. Does that make it a better car? Not only no, but HELL NO! Excuse me, I'm in UT, so "heck" no!
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From: South-central Missouri
Yes, it is a heap of garbage.
Because it is the exact embodiment of everything WRONG with modern automotive design. Boring, Staid, and so unengaging and overly loaded in "Safety devices" that people feel like they shouldn't ever be in danger, no matter how dumb they are on the road.
Look at a car from the 60s, 50s, 40s, 30s, and 20s, and you can see the soul in them. Starting with the 70s, the effort of design for aesthetics starts to drop away, the 80s, the same thing happened even more so. By the 90s forward, most cars are soulless, cars which might as well have been designed by robots, rather than drawn up by a human, who cared about things like aesthetics, and artistic expression. Engineers then decided that crappy boring and lack of feedback on the road is "comfortable".
Soul is what makes the C4 frankly better than the 5 and 6. It talks to you, unlike the later cars, which do their damn best effort to mute the driving experience.
Modern cars are too comfortable, by and large. You are too far insulated from the world around you. Combine that with the tragic, boring and staid styling, and there you go. Most cars are complete garbage. I don't care if it will run for a million+ miles. A million plus miles means nothing to me, if I don't see the heart and soul that went into building it, or can't feel it.
Because it is the exact embodiment of everything WRONG with modern automotive design. Boring, Staid, and so unengaging and overly loaded in "Safety devices" that people feel like they shouldn't ever be in danger, no matter how dumb they are on the road.
Look at a car from the 60s, 50s, 40s, 30s, and 20s, and you can see the soul in them. Starting with the 70s, the effort of design for aesthetics starts to drop away, the 80s, the same thing happened even more so. By the 90s forward, most cars are soulless, cars which might as well have been designed by robots, rather than drawn up by a human, who cared about things like aesthetics, and artistic expression. Engineers then decided that crappy boring and lack of feedback on the road is "comfortable".
Soul is what makes the C4 frankly better than the 5 and 6. It talks to you, unlike the later cars, which do their damn best effort to mute the driving experience.
Modern cars are too comfortable, by and large. You are too far insulated from the world around you. Combine that with the tragic, boring and staid styling, and there you go. Most cars are complete garbage. I don't care if it will run for a million+ miles. A million plus miles means nothing to me, if I don't see the heart and soul that went into building it, or can't feel it.
It makes my ZR-1 seem like it came from a different planet! That ol' 69 gets peoples head turning any time we take her out for a drive. The Z? not so much. In fact, until I put the chrome A-molds on it, it was hardly noticed at all!
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I don't own a Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, VW or any of the others (I'm Chevy, Fords and Dodges currently), though I have rented various ones at times when taking trips. They can be good utility vehicles, though I admit the Hyundai Genesis I rented is a fun vehicle on the highway and windy roads.
Regardless, I haven't lusted for one of those over the years like I did for a Vette. There's a mystic and grin factor associated with a Vette that doesn't translate to many other vehicles and most of those are things like Cobras, Ferrari's, etc (read expensive and exotic). On a dollar to smile ratio, it's hard to beat a Vette.
I don't care if my Vette will lap the road course faster than another vehicle or run the drag strip faster. I bought it as a cruiser and for that the smile factor is unlike any other vehicle I've owned in the 50+ years I've been driving legally.
Regardless, I haven't lusted for one of those over the years like I did for a Vette. There's a mystic and grin factor associated with a Vette that doesn't translate to many other vehicles and most of those are things like Cobras, Ferrari's, etc (read expensive and exotic). On a dollar to smile ratio, it's hard to beat a Vette.
I don't care if my Vette will lap the road course faster than another vehicle or run the drag strip faster. I bought it as a cruiser and for that the smile factor is unlike any other vehicle I've owned in the 50+ years I've been driving legally.
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That's why you get a blower that doesn't whine..much, if you're after a sleeper.
Sleeper of course left the same zipcode as my car a long time ago though.
Sorry that it's not a C4. Well, I'm glad Camry's aren't beating C4's (yet), but there's been some discussion recently about what car is better that what....and typically, objective performance is the gauntlet thrown down as "proof" that one is "better".
So, in this video, that philosophy would PROVE, that a Camry is hands down better than a mid year. Is it? Not to this car-guy (me).
Who Cares......well... really who wants a Camry.
The corvette is a beauty that has classic style, will still be there in 30-50 years time when the "camry" is long forgotten and just a pile of rust in a junk yard.
Go challenge an early corvette at your peril, there are many that look stock but have modern engines and suspension. With modern performance to match, and may scare the pants of you.
My C4 may look like any other, however the performance has been enhanced by a couple hundred more horses.
Those of us with fast cars know that there is nothing to prove, no one chalenges you. Especially when they hear a blower whine.
So, in this video, that philosophy would PROVE, that a Camry is hands down better than a mid year. Is it? Not to this car-guy (me).
Who Cares......well... really who wants a Camry.
The corvette is a beauty that has classic style, will still be there in 30-50 years time when the "camry" is long forgotten and just a pile of rust in a junk yard.
Go challenge an early corvette at your peril, there are many that look stock but have modern engines and suspension. With modern performance to match, and may scare the pants of you.
My C4 may look like any other, however the performance has been enhanced by a couple hundred more horses.
Those of us with fast cars know that there is nothing to prove, no one chalenges you. Especially when they hear a blower whine.
Sleeper of course left the same zipcode as my car a long time ago though.
