C4 General Discussion General C4 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech

What's this number ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 06:23 AM
  #1  
Dalesc4's Avatar
Dalesc4
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 333
Likes: 19
From: Melbourne Victoria
Default What's this number ?

Hi guys

While stripping car for paint found this number stamped on the chassis

It's not the vin number (well I don't think)

The vin under the screen
Vin on door sticker
And engine number all match

But this number is different
Any ideas








311858 is the number <br/>And has funny little squares before and after the number
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 07:27 AM
  #2  
WVZR-1's Avatar
WVZR-1
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Veteran: Army
Active Streak: 30 Days
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25,413
Likes: 2,745
Default

Originally Posted by Dalesc4
But this number is different
Any ideas



311858 is the number <br/>And has funny little squares before and after the number
What is the date (month/year) on the door Certification Label. The number is likely a date code with shift information also for quality control efforts. The "funny little" (your words) are likely the vendor identifier for the subassembly. Your car is an '88 so I doubt the Julian would be the 311 sequence that it begins with but more likely the 185 which would be still very late in '88 production. '88 being a Leap Year 185 would make it maybe July 3. Your mo/year would maybe make or break that theory.

I also doubt maybe that they're intended to be "ones" but maybe // - so the mo/year will maybe help sort that.

You might likely stumble across several similar in other areas, you might stumble across messages, dates etc. done in "tire crayon" also. There's also VIN identifiers that could be used in the case of documenting authenticity of the build by law enforcement.

Last edited by WVZR-1; Sep 1, 2015 at 07:40 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 07:32 AM
  #3  
Dalesc4's Avatar
Dalesc4
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 333
Likes: 19
From: Melbourne Victoria
Default

Hey mate

Date on sticker is 10/87

I though of that
Thanks again for your help
This forum is awesome
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 07:37 AM
  #4  
Joe C's Avatar
Joe C
Race Director
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 11,470
Likes: 765
Default

Originally Posted by WVZR-1
...the number is likely a date code with shift information...
just check both my 85 and 90, and I don't seem to have any identifiers at that location, but then again, I haven't removed any paint either. with WV, most likely some date code or manufacturing info.

as a side note, on my 85, I removed the front fender liner, LH aft, and the vin number is stamped into the frame member in that location -

Last edited by Joe C; Sep 1, 2015 at 09:18 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 07:39 AM
  #5  
Dalesc4's Avatar
Dalesc4
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 333
Likes: 19
From: Melbourne Victoria
Default

Thanks

I saw the number and sanded a bit more to read it
Got me worried for a min thinking the vin number didn't match

Lol


Thank again guys
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 07:45 AM
  #6  
WVZR-1's Avatar
WVZR-1
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Veteran: Army
Active Streak: 30 Days
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25,413
Likes: 2,745
Default

Originally Posted by Dalesc4
Thanks

I saw the number and sanded a bit more to read it
Got me worried for a min thinking the vin number didn't match

Lol


Thank again guys
Check the same part on the other side of the car for similar information. If there's none then it could be information regarding the entire "subassembly" side to side.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 07:48 AM
  #7  
Dalesc4's Avatar
Dalesc4
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 333
Likes: 19
From: Melbourne Victoria
Default

Checked the other side nothing there

Would love to no what the symbol means either side of the numbers
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 09:07 AM
  #8  
Joe C's Avatar
Joe C
Race Director
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 11,470
Likes: 765
Default

Originally Posted by Dalesc4
Checked the other side nothing there

Would love to no what the symbol means either side of the numbers
at first I thought it might be "geometric dimensioning and tolerancing." the first symbol, "position" and the (two) "back slash" symbols, parallelism, but the first symbol is not the standard GD&T symbol - the second is standard. as a mater of fact, I have never seen those identifiers on parts only engineering drawings. the numbering system doesn't make sense either, so it's not GD&T, but it might be some type of manufacturing info.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

2027 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 First Look: Everything You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

5 Best & 5 Worst Corvette Daily Drivers

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

The Headlights of Every Corvette Generation Explained

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-8

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 09:12 AM
  #9  
Dalesc4's Avatar
Dalesc4
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 333
Likes: 19
From: Melbourne Victoria
Default

Mmm ok
Interesting
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 09:18 AM
  #10  
antfarmer2's Avatar
antfarmer2
Race Director
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 15,926
Likes: 579
Default

Manufacturing number for sub assembly with tolerance

Last edited by antfarmer2; Sep 1, 2015 at 09:22 AM.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 10:10 AM
  #11  
Joe C's Avatar
Joe C
Race Director
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 11,470
Likes: 765
Default

Originally Posted by antfarmer2
Manufacturing number for sub assembly with tolerance
- I would also think those latch housings would need to be symmetrical and parallel to the cars CL - ??? we could second guess this all day 'til we're blue in the face, and not resolve anything. the more I look at it, the more I'm convinced it's NOT any kind of date coding.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 10:19 AM
  #12  
WVZR-1's Avatar
WVZR-1
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Veteran: Army
Active Streak: 30 Days
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 25,413
Likes: 2,745
Default

Originally Posted by Joe C
: the more I'm convinced it's NOT any kind of date coding.

I was quite convinced of that before I posted the first time, also the reason I asked for the build information from the door. That I would say confirmed it a few posts ago.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 10:27 AM
  #13  
corvetteronw's Avatar
corvetteronw
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
Veteran: Army
St. Jude 10 Year Donor
Liked
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 16,475
Likes: 270
From: Kingman AZ
Cruise-In VII Veteran
Cruise-In VIII
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default

I have a friend who works with Gordon Killebrew on some projects. I will send this post to him and see if I can get an answer. Gordon knows everything.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 10:29 AM
  #14  
Motleyfan's Avatar
Motleyfan
Instructor
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 123
Likes: 3
From: Columbia City IN
Default

It could be a body shop sequence number. These are done to keep the job sraight in ghe body shop. The sequencing sometimes gets messed up in paint and the VIN number isn't assigned until the job is sent to General Assembly. Most GM plants are like that.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 10:37 AM
  #15  
antfarmer2's Avatar
antfarmer2
Race Director
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 15,926
Likes: 579
Default

I wish I could see the bottom box with the cross hairs better. I believe the better the cross hairs are centered the better the specs are. The top one looks good.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 10:39 AM
  #16  
Joe C's Avatar
Joe C
Race Director
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 11,470
Likes: 765
Default

Originally Posted by Motleyfan
It could be a body shop sequence number. These are done to keep the job sraight in ghe body shop. The sequencing sometimes gets messed up in paint and the VIN number isn't assigned until the job is sent to General Assembly. Most GM plants are like that.
you may be on to something - "body shop" number or a "job" which is independent of the VIN. from what I remember, it was a three digit number, starting with 001 and thru 999. I wonder if the OP has seen any hand written numbers (#858) elsewhere on the car. gawd, I love stuff like this...
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 10:43 AM
  #17  
antfarmer2's Avatar
antfarmer2
Race Director
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 15,926
Likes: 579
Default

Originally Posted by Motleyfan
It could be a body shop sequence number. These are done to keep the job sraight in ghe body shop. The sequencing sometimes gets messed up in paint and the VIN number isn't assigned until the job is sent to General Assembly. Most GM plants are like that.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To What's this number ?

Old Sep 1, 2015 | 05:17 PM
  #18  
Dalesc4's Avatar
Dalesc4
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 333
Likes: 19
From: Melbourne Victoria
Default

I will get a better pic of the bottom box tonight and post for u

I will keep my eyes open for more numbers and let u no what u find
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 05:59 PM
  #19  
antfarmer2's Avatar
antfarmer2
Race Director
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 15,926
Likes: 579
Default

Originally Posted by Dalesc4
I will get a better pic of the bottom box tonight and post for u

I will keep my eyes open for more numbers and let u no what u find
A close up of both boxes would be great.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2015 | 07:12 PM
  #20  
c4cruiser's Avatar
c4cruiser
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Veteran: Army
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 34,873
Likes: 487
From: Lacey WA RVN 68-69
NCM Sinkhole Donor
Default

Originally Posted by Motleyfan
It could be a body shop sequence number. These are done to keep the job sraight in ghe body shop. The sequencing sometimes gets messed up in paint and the VIN number isn't assigned until the job is sent to General Assembly. Most GM plants are like that.
The VIN has the body style (coupe or convertible) as the 6th digit (2-coupe or 3-convertible. So the VIN has to match the frame as it's being built especially with the last 8 digits of the VIN being stamped on the frame below where the battery sits. I believe the full VIN is also stamped on the right rear of the frame near where the dogbones attach to the frame kick-up.

Weren't the C4 frames built at the Bowling Green Assembly Plant? I would expect that frames would be built only when the job sequence number was assigned and the car was actually scheduled to be built.

The build sheet for my '87 shows a julian date of 87-117 (April 27th) as the day the job sequence number was created and the car started down the assembly line on May 11th.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:41 AM.

story-0
2027 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 First Look: Everything You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Is the 2027 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 the best Silverado yet?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-16 08:01:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
5 Best & 5 Worst Corvette Daily Drivers

Slideshow: 5 best and 5 worst Corvette daily drivers

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 10:32:13


VIEW MORE
story-2
The Headlights of Every Corvette Generation Explained

Slideshow: The headlights of every Corvette generation explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 10:17:14


VIEW MORE
story-3
5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 most overrated Corvette track packages ever.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:46:45


VIEW MORE
story-4
Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

Slideshow: Every 2027 Corvette engine explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:16:31


VIEW MORE
story-5
Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

Slideshow: A Jaguar designer's personal project imagines what a modern front-engined Corvette might look like if Chevrolet revisited the golden age of the Stingray.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-08 19:53:43


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE