Hi, I am searching for a LT1 C4 for a second Vette with low mileage. I currently own a C5. I found one I like & asked the dealer twice to send me the Car Fax and he continues to just send me pictures only. So, I purchased a Car Fax for the vehicle. The Car Fax report has only one detailed record and it is dated 6/15. No other records prior to that.

Am I missing something here?? Should there be reports from day one sale on the Car Fax?

Help me out :-)

 

The VIN is? Post it ...

There's several potential checks for records but if this was a very early production that stayed with the original owner and the state was a very late participant in the NMVTIS with no DMV recorded sales it's certainly likely.

If you asked twice and the dealer didn't I might have just "crossed it off of" my interest list. I wouldn't have spent my money for the report.

These inquiries always "FIRST". Always

https://www.nicb.org/theft_and_fraud_awareness/vincheck

http://www.vehiclehistory.gov/

 

1992 lt1 vin# 1g1yy23p0n5115852

 

I do some things with different software and I see maybe issues with VIN.

I don't see what you've posted as correct. What color is this car? Red/red maybe and a coupe?

Get a snapshot of the SPID label, the Certification Label (drivers door) and the windshield VIN plate. All need to match.

 

Color Dark Green Coupe. I will request SPID Label

 

The VIN error then is likely in the last 5 digits then, N = '92, 5 = BG and 1 = BASE so the sequence is suspect so long as the 9th is a 0 as you posted it.

 

I Cut and pasted the VIN off the vehicle ad. I will call and inquire more later today.

I also have my eye on a 90 ZR1 CA car. Little more mileage & dollars.

 

90 ZR-1 end of story

 

Kali to Fla is a "big trip" - like"WE ONE" mentions maybe "end of story" BUT location might be the influential .. game changer.

ZR-1 closer to home? FOR SURE!!!!

You're in FLA and shopping in the NORTHEAST? For an LT1 car .. I may be missing something ... maybe

*** Wait I see the Boston MA as well as the FLA - I get it You maybe returned from FLA a little early if you're back in MA already this SPRING - it's cold!!

 

Yes back in MA & shopping locally. Doctor appointments YUK. The ZR1 is local to MA from CA.

 

Here's pic's of the SPID Label and the VIN plate on the windshield

 

I'm surprised no one's pointed it out yet, the fourth digit from the end is different from what you posted earlier.

 

Yes. I contacted the dealer and now things are starting to correct themselves. The dealer posted the VIN# incorrectly. The Car Fax has a history now. A special Thanks to WVZR1 for pointing that out.

 

I ran your (posted) VIN when you said a 6/15 only record against a VIN "algorithm" that confirms what should be in the "9th" position (check digit) and it said that your VIN was incorrect regarding the "CHECK DIGIT". I corrected only the 9th digit and you mentioned NOT a color match so I mentioned where I assumed the error must be.

Good to see you're all set now and it's good to see that my stuff works. You can fool CARFAX but I can generally catch it.

If you use the CF VIN identifying tool it also works incorrectly. CARFAX looks at only the first 8 to ID the car and the 10th to ID the model year. They validate none against anything other than make/model/year and of course DMV history.

 

Thanks again WVZR1. One turn off just talking to the dealer about the car. This car shows as one owner on the Car Fax, but has been Owned & Used (probably dealer/repair tags) by three different dealers since the original owner sold it in 7/2014. I found out by asking if he had the title in hand and his name, and the answer was no. Vehicle has been to auction twice since July 2014. Something didn't sound cool while discussing the vehicle with the dealer. Why would this vehicle go through soooo many hands. The dealer told me the dealer they bought it from never signed the title over. It's still in the previous owners/dealer name.

So, do you call this a One owner or 4 owner vehicle???

 

Walk away. Dealers are smart enough to NOT buy a car without a title....or should be. Car should not be sitting on a lot or multiple lots since 2014!

Run Forest.....RUN....

 

I agree. Sounds like this vehicle has been bouncing around the auction circuit for a couple of years. One would ask why?? Plus why would one dealer buy a car from another dealer/auction and not get a signed over title. Red flag IMO.

I also talked to a dealer with a 1990 ZR1. Original owner registered w/tags. Owners 2 thru 5 never registered with tags . Why 5 dealers owned the vehicle since the original owner sold in 2012. All info via the Car Fax. No registration tags since 2012.

Vehicle sure didn't go up in value since 2012. Dumb investment if you asked me.

 

Good luck finding any mid priced car that is a good investment..

 

Well if they used the "first" eight and the "last" eight then they should also be using the algorithm that would validate the VIN as legitimate. CARFAX recorded the VIN as "new entry" with the reported information from either the dealer or whoever reported it on 6/15.

SPO if you're an SPO employee or rely upon an SPO employee to supply you with correct parts or services then you're a "fool" if you rely on a "last 8" entry.

Using the last eight of the posted VIN that the OP supplied would get you what?

I validated the "10th" digit as being incorrect for the OP's posted VIN first/last 8 and corrected the "10th" to match using the algorithm and it resulted in the red/red. An SPO guy if supplied with the same last 8 of the VIN and told it was a Corvette would have supplied wrong parts.

The 10th digit of any VIN is the VALIDATION of the legitimacy of the the first/last 8 of any VIN. That's why a VIN is 17 digits.

If you use nearly any VIN identifier and a theoretical first 8 and alter the 11th and 12th of it the results will be the same. The CF VIN DECODER IS AN EXAMPLE. Try the VIN posted by the OP.

I believe I understand VINs - A CARFAX employee NO - do I use and trust CARFAX? Not util the VIN has been validated by NMVTIS. Then not so much either.

Here's FREE VIN checker that would have set off ALARMS if it had been used (I don't use it). I use the algorithm .

https://www.vinsmart.com/

Here's the VIN posted by the OP: 1g1yy23p0n5115852

CARFAX still shows a single entry for the WRONG VIN - TRY IT - wanna buy it? Would the buy of the CARFAX just mention an "invalide VIN"? They would have your $40

*** Use the CF DECODER for the "wrong VIN" and then roll directly from there to CARFAX using the link. Interesting results. None could be correct!

 

some people/dealers do not put the title in their name but leave it in the old owners name.. they do this to cheat the tax man, both state and feds. Also, in many states if you sell over a certain number of cars, you gotta buy a dealers license.