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Old Jul 28, 2016 | 07:01 PM
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Just looking for some general info. I nave a friend who has a 1990 c4 and has an oil leak that seems to be coming from the middle of the car. He doesnt have access to a lift amd I was wondering if I could tap into the wealth of info here on the Forum. The car has 90,000 miles Thanks
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Ho all
Just looking for some general info. I nave a friend who has a 1990 c4 and has an oil leak that seems to be coming from the middle of the car. He doesnt have access to a lift amd I was wondering if I could tap into the wealth of info here on the Forum. The car has 90,000 miles Thanks
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could be anyplace. if it is engine oil, and not tranny fluid, check - valve covers, rear china wall, oil pressure sensors, oil pan, or front/rear main seal. need more info.

on my 90, I had a major oil leak at the rear china wall. not an impossible job to fix, but it does take some effort to repair.

I'd start by cleaning everything the best you can, and try to pin point the leak. they do sell UV (light) leak detector - I've never used it on an oil system though....
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could be anyplace. if it is engine oil, and not tranny fluid, check - valve covers, rear china wall, oil pressure sensors, oil pan, or front/rear main seal. need more info.

on my 90, I had a major oil leak at the rear china wall. not an impossible job to fix, but it does take some effort to repair.

I'd start by cleaning everything the best you can, and try to pin point the leak. they do sell UV (light) leak detector - I've never used it on an oil system though....
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Thanks for your response. Its motor oil thats leaking. Im not familar with the term "china wall"but the general consensus is the rear main seal. Basically what Im looking for is info from c4 owners about common problems inherent with the car

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Old Jul 29, 2016 | 10:28 AM
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A leak from the valve covers, back of the intake manifold, rear seal will often look like it's coming from the rear of the engine. The repair will range from simple to major (engine out.) The only way is to clean the area, as Joe suggested, and see exactly where new oil is leaking from.

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Old Jul 29, 2016 | 11:51 AM
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Default Most likely the rear of intake manifold

That's where my 94 leaked, in the center at the back of engine. The front and rear of the intake manifold are RTV'd and called the china wall because of the pattern of the intake at the front and rear. (like the great wall of china)!
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Thanks for your response. Its motor oil thats leaking. Im not familar with the term "china wall"but the general consensus is the rear main seal. Basically what Im looking for is info from c4 owners about common problems inherent with the car

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here's a generic pic of someone applying sealant to the china wall - its the area between the heads at the front and rear of the block. next to VC's, a common source for leaks. you still need to get in there, clean everything, and look for the source of the leak(s) -



"common problem inherent to a 90" - nothing more inherent than any other SBC. - I've had two 90's. my first 90 was bone dry - zero leaks - never had leak issues. my current 90 had a major leak at the rear china wall when I bought it, mostly due to a poor mechanical repair during, i'm thinking, a head gasket repair. long story short, corrected the problem, and today, bone dry and zero leaks. as long as the gasket and seals are of good quality, with proper mechanical repairs, L98's and 90's in general are like any other small block, there are no inherent leaking issues. I have found that most oil leaks are due to poor mechanical skills by "wrench benders."

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I had a rear crank seal oil leak in my 98 TA. Used some of this and it cleared it up for about a year so far.
http://store.gobdp.com/rear-main-sealer-00234/
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As a very long time owner of a 1990, I have seen just about everything. On my own car and other owners.

The two most common leak points on a L-98 engine are the aforementioned intake manifold "China Wall" and the oil pressure sensors that are located at the rear of the block.

My suggestion is that after a good clean-up of the block, put some UV (ultraviolet) dye in the oil. Kits to do this are available at Autozone, O'Reilly's, etc. They include the dye, a UV light and special goggles for viewing.

With the UV dye you should be able to spot the leak point very quickly.
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As a very long time owner of a 1990, I have seen just about everything. On my own car and other owners.

The two most common leak points on a L-98 engine are the aforementioned intake manifold "China Wall" and the oil pressure sensors that are located at the rear of the block.

My suggestion is that after a good clean-up of the block, put some UV (ultraviolet) dye in the oil. Kits to do this are available at Autozone, O'Reilly's, etc. They include the dye, a UV light and special goggles for viewing.

With the UV dye you should be able to spot the leak point very quickly.
Thank you all for your input. The result was a leaking oil sender. There is a very minor leak at the rear seal. Also my friend was using synthetic oil and it was recommended that high mileage oil be used

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