Find a C4 with a tired motor, but otherwise pristine metal structure and body, and stick it and some suspension parts away for the future. Read this and watch the video and contemplate the possibilities when prices come down and engine parts get scarce

http://www.factoryfive.com/whats-new...A-Preview-1016

Just think how cool it would be to have a C4 that didn't make a sound blow the doors off the new factory hot cars being sold currently

 

the future is now! check out mos ev c4.

 

Guess I'm just a old f$#c. Don't think it would be cool at all to have a C4 that dosent make noise.

However I do think the Teslas are pretty cool. Especially as they have some nice looking bodies, as the most of the hybrids and Volts and electric Nissans have some ugly looking bodies.

 

Totally wouldn't like a C4 that's silent. I'm super old school when it comes to cars, hate all the electric motor stuff and stuff thats got too many luxuries. I planned on getting my C4 plates as "NO TESLA" but it was taken

Anyway, I hope guys stop racing electric cars against regular cars. Its not even like a difference in different fuel or engine components (NA, turbo, supercharged etc), its a completely different engine.

Not knocking your thread btw, just my opinion

 

I didn't say how cool or uncool it is. I do think it will be a way to keep the cars on the road in the future. Eventually as the next generations, who were not into gasoline engines get involved, I think this will occur more and more.

At least I hope one day that someone would convert my car to an electric drive rather than stick it out in a field or send it to the crusher to be disposed of.

I was looking 10 15 20 years out or more. Who knows what will happen, but eventually electric motors/batteries/alternative drives will surpass fossil fuel engines.

I guess they will just need some big speakers that look like tailpipes to send the sound of a car engine through.

 

That would be cool except for a couple things. Fuel availability? That is kinda like diesel. Every fuel station sells gasoline. In many cities, not every fuel station sells diesel. If they do, you are a 2nd class citizen where they stick you in the middle or in the middle of BFE, etc, etc.

What about time? Right now I can get fuel and be done in under 10 minutes. How long will I have to wait to get a charge?

I'd have to wait till it becomes way more popular. I tend to drive down to the fumes and would suck to have to change my habits or "top up" every chance I get.

 

I'm not going to knock Tesla, as I think they are doing a fine job, and probably more for electric cars than anybody else. I really like them. They are great as long as you hang around fairly close to home. But the thing about Texas is, we think 200 miles is fairly close to home! It's no big deal to go to the coast (Gulf) for the weekend, or head up in the hills to a ranch for a few days to lay back, BBQ and do some hunting. As nice as some of the electrics they are, I'm not going to buy a car that is that expensive and have to leave that nice car at home just because I want to drive 450 miles a day when I go on a vacation or a three day weekend. Plus, out on the open road, we drive 70-85 mph and with the air on, that's really going to put the stretch on a battery powered car. The old gasser will go as far as I can stand to drive it, just as long as I can find gas along that trail to put in it, during a 15 min. pee brake. Now when they find a way to either charge up some new kind of battery in 15 min. or less or invent some kind of an affordable swap program (quick change, charged replacement for a discharged battery), I think the electrics will be stuck in the urban areas and will not transition to long distance travelers.

 

Why do we have filling stations for LP and many exchange stations? Here is the issue. When I have them fill up, I am taking someones can and hoping it works well. When I have to bring my tank to you, have you fill it up, etc, etc, it is more inconvenient. Would you be comfortable with a battery from the last guy who might have burned it to it's last legs?

 

Yeah, that's another problem with battery power. You never know if that battery you just swapped is a croaker or not. They are a major expense in these new electric cars and there is going to have to be some kind of tagging, testing or some way to certify the usability of these things so people don't get ripped off on an exchange.

 

It will be interesting to see what the future holds, saw some documentary on evolution of the super car and the fact that the future of gas is why electric hybrids are being developed, the documentary also stated that supposedly we have about 58 years of oil reserves left to drill for, transportation will have to change sometime soon. It's too bad the GM electric car in " who killed the electric car" was killed!

 

I agree it will be cool to keep the car bodies around vs running out of parts and having to send em to their graves. Thats what's going on with 40+ yr old cars in a way. We just gotta enjoy the last yrs of true sports cars.

And ppl are starting to notice too. E36 M3s r slowly going up in price and you can't find a clean Toyota Supra for under $40k

 

Right now, I get to set the pump and jump back into the car. Real handy if it is freezing cold or raining. OTOH, can you imagine lugging that big battery out of the car to exchange it?

 

We are running out of parts. There are many engine and transmission parts there only because they are still used. Other body parts are "NLA".

Every generation seems to think that one is the true sports car

 

Turns out this thread is about EVs, which I'm not too fond of.

But to answer, somewhat tongue in cheek, the original title: Future of C4's is dim.

Keep your C4 and enjoy it, nobody else wants it, at least not for the price you think its worth. In 10-15 years maybe, if we are still allowed to buy gas.

 

WELL SAID!!


Think the future will be EVs period
Maybe guys down the road of sticking some EV converison kit in their favorite old car rather than gas. Bet it happens in our lifetime

Far as future values, good luck with that wasting your time imo.

Who cares really its just a hobby cars are NOT savings accounts if its that big a deal then maybe ya cant really afford it in the first place.
Think most of us have been there once or twice.

Ill always have a gas powered v8 just as its something I love but really the EV is in its budding stages and a Tesla can run hard as it does? Those things can flat haul azz with 4 people in it.

Why bother building anything.....invest in EV aftermarket co's when they come out.

 

eventually gasoline as we know it is going to go away, there will be some kind of alternative fuel in the future, whether it is electric, bio-diesel produced from algae, but not gasoline derived from oil in the ground

just like removing lead from gas, removing gas itself will be an iterative process. as I said, I hope someone will save my car

now if I was 35 or 40 yrs old again, and in 10 or 15 yrs the hot rod industry starting selling kits to retrofit old gas engined cars into a new form of propulsion, and this would keep them going another 20,30 or so years, then I would do it

and as much as everyone here says they hate,despise, spit on, faht in the general direction of, alternative power sources, if it came to an alternative power source or nothing, which do you think you would pick ? the couch watching some dude fish ?

there is a big battle going on right now that will decide whether or not a lot of the hot rod industry survives. the EPA is trying to make it illegal to convert a car that was originally a street car into a race car and make it illegal to make parts for such, just another over reach of the democraps that are voted into office.

how many companies are going to be able to stay in business if their parts CAN be used to convert a car and they get fined, sued, put out of business ??? the death knell of the hot rod industry could be ringing, which I hope all the measures being done to fight this succeeds.

if the companies can't make gasoline engines (read that air pollution) then it is either go out of business or make an alternative drive system, in which case, parts are going to dry up real fast.

 

I'm not selling all my internal combustion vehicles, but I changed teams. I'm queer for kilowatts. My daily driver used less than 2 gallons in the last 1500 miles. Electricity is free in California if you have net-electrical-metering solar.

I'm considering a Tesla model S. They are all over the place in SD Co. I haven't run into a P90D or P100D, but they are starting to become belligerent even against my LS3 C6.

If you think about it, why are we messing with mufflers, multi speed gearboxes, liquid fuel, driveshafts, no regenerative braking, old fashioned hydraulic power steering, fuel filter, fuel pumps, ignition systems, and so on when you can buy a 10 second electric car that doesn't require an emissions check? I love hot rods, but not buying gas really grows on you.

 

I think old cars will survive- it is just that the newer forms of energy will be more economic and people will stop buying the older tech. Industry and extreme environments will still need ICE (internal combustion engines).

 

I agree and it'll take decades. Everytime we're told this and that it takes what seems like a couple of generations before anything changes. Sorry but no one is going out in droves to buy electric cars. Even the people who can afford Teslas aren't buying them.

I spend so much time on Palm Beach that I literally live there and I see Teslas all the time. But do you know what I see more? Ferraris, Lambos, Maybachs, Rolls, Bentleys, etc. Far many more than I see Teslas. And again, this from the people who can afford them outright. There is more money spent on adding the charging stations than actual people buying them. I see several places with tons of these charging stations and never see anyone plugged into one. Electric cars also are not new. They've been around for forty years already as is and just now are getting anywhere let alone being widespread.

I think in our lifetime, our cars are safe. In our childrens lifetime, that might be a different story.

 

Unless there is enough of a market, I doubt it could be done economically. There is more to a car than the engine and right now, we are running short of parts that are C4 specific since we have to cannibalize wrecked stuff to keep what we have going.

I think the issue with the alternative stuff is that it is too difficult to work with. Even if you gave me an electric car that made the same power as mine, what do I do for fuel? Would I be limited to just certain cities, have long waits at the recharge station, etc, etc?