Wtf ?
Race Director
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 11,770
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From: Rolla Missouri
2021 C4 of the Year - Unmodified Finalist
St. Jude Donor '10 thru '25
It comes down to what type of car show it was.
Participant voting, or a true "judged" event.
Participant voting just comes down to who has the most friends there, and anything goes.
A true judged event it totally different and anybody that knows how to prepare a car has an equal chance.
100 point judging (Paint, Interior, Tires/Wheels, Engine Compartment, etc).
I have beat ZR-1's before too, in those judged events.
Drifting
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,396
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From: Plainfield IN
Even a "judged" car show has its flaws - score cards and all - who's ever gone to a judging school - lol? I've judged plenty of cars and consider myself pretty knowledgeable- but unless you're "in" the business as a full time participant envolve in classic/custom/muscle/street rods cars you just can't be qualified to judge a car show. So they select guys that usually are "willing" or get drafted to do the best they can. NSRA, NCCA, GoodGuys, CCCA, all try very hard at judging our cars, but they make mistakes too because there's always "that" car that is special, unusual, or so very very rare that makes it difficult to judge. Again I said go to shows to talk cars and enjoy the people attending.
Team Owner
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 23,139
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From: San Antonio Texas
Guess it depends on who is judging. I just did a charity show yesterday where our club took a raffle car to raise money for St. Judes Ranch for Children. I took my C4 and entered just to show our club's support for their charity show, and thanks for inviting us to bring our raffle car to their event. My car was the only C4 there and in a class with cars from 84 to present with a bunch of C6 & C7's. Well, much to my surprise I got a trophy
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Instructor
Joined: Aug 2015
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From: Staten Island NY
Advanced
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 79
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From: milwaukee wi
i cant count how many car shows i seen come down to politics or whos hosting it.... if the white one was a senior club member and the zr1 wasnt a member of the club.. that right there will do it.
last year my ls1 conversion chevelle took second in a custom class to a lemans with an old paint job a 350 and a highrise with 2 650 cmf carbs (way too much for a 350), and a huge hole sawsalled in the hood.. and then i had to tell him his carb was leaking gas all over his intake. little did i know he was friends with the sponsor of the show.... it happens.. unless its a concourse or nationally judged show.. just gotta rolll with it.
last year my ls1 conversion chevelle took second in a custom class to a lemans with an old paint job a 350 and a highrise with 2 650 cmf carbs (way too much for a 350), and a huge hole sawsalled in the hood.. and then i had to tell him his carb was leaking gas all over his intake. little did i know he was friends with the sponsor of the show.... it happens.. unless its a concourse or nationally judged show.. just gotta rolll with it.
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Drifting
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,396
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From: Plainfield IN
I quit entering or staying all day if I do enter years ago - I just see old friends and hang out or check out something I've never seen before which doesn't occur much anymore- lol. I don't need trophies to make me feel satisfied or good about my car anymore. I'm past all that.
Last edited by BLUDICE; Oct 24, 2016 at 07:08 PM.
Safety Car
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 4,426
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From: Pennsylvania
I quit entering or staying all day if I do enter years ago - I just see old friends and hang out or check out something I've never seen before which doesn't occur much anymore- lol. I don't need trophies to make me feel satisfied or good about my car anymore. I'm past all that.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 6,192
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From: near the thumb in the mitten
It shouldn't be assumed that if you have a rare or low production car you win. Car shows are about detail and detailing. Judges have their agenda and sometimes focus on stuff the average person overlooks. There is always a chance of politics in smaller shows. A friend won a National Camaro event with a stock 96 V6 Camaro in 98. Blew my mind, I did even understand why he showed it. It was a well detailed super clean all OEM part "Plain Jane" and evidently one of the best in the country. I have never been much of a car show participant.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Dec 2004
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It shouldn't be assumed that if you have a rare or low production car you win. Car shows are about detail and detailing. Judges have their agenda and sometimes focus on stuff the average person overlooks. There is always a chance of politics in smaller shows. A friend won a National Camaro event with a stock 96 V6 Camaro in 98. Blew my mind, I did even understand why he showed it. It was a well detailed super clean all OEM part "Plain Jane" and evidently one of the best in the country. I have never been much of a car show participant.