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Old Nov 4, 2016 | 08:34 PM
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Well I got the starter bolts out but the transmission lines and the air pump tube won't allow me to get the starter out. There's a small hose clamp holding the air pump tube to a bracket on the exhaust manifold that's IMPOSSIBLE to get to to remove the tube. I'm starting to think cut and splice it. Any other suggestions? 89 auto

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Old Nov 4, 2016 | 10:45 PM
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Try cutting the AIR pipe out, leaving some at both ends, then replacing it with a long piece of high heat rubber hose. Clamp it to the pipe where it was cut off. What's nice is it's flexible so you can route it any way you like.
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Old Nov 5, 2016 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by shootnstarz
Well I got the starter bolts out but the transmission lines and the air pump tube won't allow me to get the starter out. There's a small hose clamp holding the air pump tube to a bracket on the exhaust manifold that's IMPOSSIBLE to get to to remove the tube. I'm starting to think cut and splice it. Any other suggestions? 89 auto

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Those are the exact reasons I took my starter out the top.
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Old Nov 5, 2016 | 06:42 AM
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Those are the exact reasons I took my starter out the top.
sounds better than doing a Bubba.
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Old Nov 5, 2016 | 08:34 AM
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I looked at that and don't see any possible way to pull it out from above. I'm going to try some spreader clamps this morning, see if I can spread them enough to get the damn thing out. Bear paws don't help either

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Old Nov 5, 2016 | 09:26 AM
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That tube should move enough to remove the starter. However, that tube is just slightly inserted into the cat so you may have to rebend the tube in case it falls out. I replaced mine with a high torque mini starter from Summit which was so much easier to install and a better starter. If I remember right, it was the hatachi style starter.
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Old Nov 5, 2016 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by shootnstarz
I looked at that and don't see any possible way to pull it out from above. I'm going to try some spreader clamps this morning, see if I can spread them enough to get the damn thing out. Bear paws don't help either

Rick
OP - Consider this maybe. Your '89 should have the newer "compact" starter and through to the top sounds possible. Hand the starter off to a second pair of hands "up top" or have a second pair do the pass to you. I can't pass on "1st hand" since mines actually under the plenum but it seems maybe a possibility.

Most mention being able to get the starter past the cooler lines without actually disconnecting them which might actually be suggested in the FSM's etc. - I've never looked.

*** What needs to be considered is what needs to be removed, pushed, twisted or whatever to "hand it off" or maybe actually a drop to the floor is advantageous.

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Well, after several hours of using every cuss word in the book, and making up a few as well I finally got it out and the new one in. All I had to remove was the knock sensor shield. With a little prying and a lot of finagling it finally came out the bottom. Spent another hour or so cleaning underneath with purple power and brillo. Still not leaking a drop of oil 30K miles after the Lucas Oil stop leak.

Just what does the knock sensor do?

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Just what does the knock sensor do?

Rick
The knock sensor "hears' pinging or called knocking caused by detonation. This is basically combustion that is occurring at the incorrect time. There can be several reasons for detonation to occur. Anyhow, when the knock sensors detect the pinging the PCM (computer) adjusts the timing of fuel and spark to correct the issue. Detonation can cause internal damage to an engine. That is a very basic explanation of what a knock sensor is used for. - Ozz

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