Serious modification question?
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Serious modification question?
I have been wanting to do engine work very soon but I am not sure if I want to go with a supercharger kit or stay all motor. I was thinking of getting a Carroll supercharger. Does any one have any opinions on what I shoud do since I am willing to spend the money? Any opinions would help
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Re: Serious modification question? (Double Black Vette)
I'll bite. I have a stoker now and really love it. I have had superchargers before as well as turbo cars....each has their good points....but I really love a stroker motor. They sound very stout and have the power to back it up. I guess it depends on your application and also the condition of your engine now. Whatever you do....you will enjoy the power. I would just research each option and talk to people that have the different setups to get the pros and cons on each. :)
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Re: Serious modification question? (IMXCITD)
And I'll back up Bill (IMXCITD). His 383 just sounds killer. Although I have never really seen the car fly (No where safe in the area to do it) I know the car will from the history.
If I find another C4 and want power, I am going with a 383! Man I love the sound of that car!
If I find another C4 and want power, I am going with a 383! Man I love the sound of that car!
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Re: Serious modification question? (Double Black Vette)
Any specific power goal? or ET goal you want?
Id go with bigger cubes myself though.
Id go with bigger cubes myself though.
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Re: Serious modification question? (vader86)
Id go with bigger cubes myself though.
Imagine all the torque you'll have from more cubes :cool:
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Re: Serious modification question? (Double Black Vette)
What kind of power are you looking for? Superchargers tend to limit your top-end power, but are great for low end. Turbos are good for both, but have turbo lag. Either way, both require lots of money to do.
EDIT: All engine is all-around good stuff. Should increase all-around power band. I'd first go with a stroke to 383, get better cams and heads, and a torque converter myself :cool:
Gears make the biggest difference, I hear.
[Modified by GDP, 1:16 AM 9/22/2002]
EDIT: All engine is all-around good stuff. Should increase all-around power band. I'd first go with a stroke to 383, get better cams and heads, and a torque converter myself :cool:
Gears make the biggest difference, I hear.
[Modified by GDP, 1:16 AM 9/22/2002]
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Re: Serious modification question? (bizaro1234)
qoute unknown? maybe you saw it here first? :mad
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Re: Serious modification question? (Lord Odin)
qoute unknown? maybe you saw it here first? :mad
I'm QUITE sure I didn't see it from you. I got it from a crotch-rocket movie (don't remember the name of it) and the author wasn't listed. So thus, the author is unknown. :boxing
I'm QUITE sure I didn't see it from you. I got it from a crotch-rocket movie (don't remember the name of it) and the author wasn't listed. So thus, the author is unknown. :boxing
Back to the thread - I have a preference for strokers because (among other reasons) they can't be seen, and are easier to get past insurance companies and motor registry authorities... I haven't done either yet so thats about all the input I can provide. :)
There are a few guys here who have gone via the supercharged route, hopefully they will chime in.
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Re: Serious modification question? (LUV2SELL)
How much would a supercharger setup cost in comparison to a stroker setup? I've seen prices for the SC alone running close to $5000 (not sure if that includes installation or not).
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Re: Serious modification question? (Double Black Vette)
What you should do all depends upon the end result you're looking for. From my limited knowledge with engine building and engines, I can only give you recommendations based on opinions I have heard in the past. It seems obvious that if you stay with an "all-motor" setup, it will endure the least stress on the engine and its internals as compared to forced induction options (e.g. turbo, supercharger).
I went with the 383 stroker motor and am completely satisfied with it. If I only had an extra 10 grand at the time that I had the motor built, I would have gone with a 420 cid engine. Sad part is that I ended up spending close to $26,000 on the whole package at that time (engine, exhaust, brake upgrades, transmission upgrades,etc.). I only walked in there planning to spend about $3500 on swapping out the upper end of the motor (intake, etc.).
I suggest that you do a lot of research before you decide so that in the long run you are happy and satisfied with what you end up with.
[Modified by 383 Stroker, 12:37 AM 9/23/2002]
I went with the 383 stroker motor and am completely satisfied with it. If I only had an extra 10 grand at the time that I had the motor built, I would have gone with a 420 cid engine. Sad part is that I ended up spending close to $26,000 on the whole package at that time (engine, exhaust, brake upgrades, transmission upgrades,etc.). I only walked in there planning to spend about $3500 on swapping out the upper end of the motor (intake, etc.).
I suggest that you do a lot of research before you decide so that in the long run you are happy and satisfied with what you end up with.
[Modified by 383 Stroker, 12:37 AM 9/23/2002]
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Re: Serious modification question? (Lord Odin)
How much would a supercharger setup cost in comparison to a stroker setup? I've seen prices for the SC alone running close to $5000 (not sure if that includes installation or not).
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Re: Serious modification question? (1bad85)
Do a stroker at 9.5:1 compression. If that does not have enough power for you, throw on a blower kit. At 9.5:1 compression you will be fine just bolting it on, updating the programming, and going.
Strokers are a lot of fun.
Strokers are a lot of fun.
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Re: Serious modification question? (Vette92)
Ok, lets say I wanted to go 12 sec with my car from 14 sec right now. Would a stroker or blower do the job? BTW, a modded hood is out of the question if it pertains to any of these mods; they're butt-ugly in my mind.
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Re: Serious modification question? (Lord Odin)
Mackey is doing the 12 sec thing right now without touching the motor. Get the gears (4.10 6m or 3.73 A4), Converter to match if A4, cat back exhaust, Drag Radials, and lots of practice.
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Mackey is doing the 12 sec thing right now without touching the motor. Get the gears (4.10 6m or 3.73 A4), Converter to match if A4, cat back exhaust, Drag Radials, and lots of practice.
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Re: Serious modification question? (Lord Odin)
Ok, lets say I wanted to go 12 sec with my car from 14 sec right now. Would a stroker or blower do the job? BTW, a modded hood is out of the question if it pertains to any of these mods; they're butt-ugly in my mind.
[Modified by vader86, 2:49 PM 9/23/2002]