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Old Apr 23, 2017 | 12:03 PM
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My 1995 C4 runs hot as much as 220+. I am thinking the thermostat may be wrong temperature (225?) Should correct thermostat be 185? Thanks
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180 'stat will be the right one. A temp of 225 is a bit warm but have you checked for dirt and debris at the front of the A/C condenser and the front of the radiator. That's a common issue with C4's. If everything is dry, you can use a shop vacuum to remove a lot of that junk or use a garden hose from the engine side of the radiator to push everything out.

Also make sure the lower air dam pieces are in place and are not torn up or bent backwards. How old are the hoses? You may have a lower hose that is collapsing and cutting the coolant flow down.

You can also check the cooling fan operation by starting the engine and then turn the A/C on. That will force the fans to start.
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Originally Posted by gstatucki
My 1995 C4 runs hot as much as 220+. I am thinking the thermostat may be wrong temperature (225?) Should correct thermostat be 185? Thanks
Lets start with "How did you determine that?". I don't know about 95 but on my 91, the most accurate is to see what the ECM sees and not what the gauge sees.

If it is really 220 per the ECM, start with the basics. Is the radiator good? Hit it in several spots with an infrared thermometer and see if that is having cold spots. If not, check for air obstruction since the C4 picks up all kinds of crap from the ground.
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Old Apr 23, 2017 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim
Lets start with "How did you determine that?". I don't know about 95 but on my 91, the most accurate is to see what the ECM sees and not what the gauge sees.

If it is really 220 per the ECM, start with the basics. Is the radiator good? Hit it in several spots with an infrared thermometer and see if that is having cold spots. If not, check for air obstruction since the C4 picks up all kinds of crap from the ground.
Thanks will give all a try
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Old Apr 23, 2017 | 04:36 PM
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180 'stat will be the right one. A temp of 225 is a bit warm but have you checked for dirt and debris at the front of the A/C condenser and the front of the radiator. That's a common issue with C4's. If everything is dry, you can use a shop vacuum to remove a lot of that junk or use a garden hose from the engine side of the radiator to push everything out.

Also make sure the lower air dam pieces are in place and are not torn up or bent backwards. How old are the hoses? You may have a lower hose that is collapsing and cutting the coolant flow down.

You can also check the cooling fan operation by starting the engine and then turn the A/C on. That will force the fans to start.
Thanks will give all a shot.
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220+ is normal at traffic jams, waiting in line at a bank, ect. 220+ is not normal at 35 mph or above.
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220+ is normal at traffic jams, waiting in line at a bank, ect. 220+ is not normal at 35 mph or above.
OK Thanks Thought 220 was too high
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Originally Posted by gstatucki
OK Thanks Thought 220 was too high
Read the cooling system sticky (top of the "general discussion" forum). Normal temp range is 190-230 F. That's why the C4 either has an oil cooler (L98 models) or requires synthetic oil (LT1/LT4 models).

I'm not yet comfortable when the engine hits those temps either, but I'm slowly getting used to it.
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Originally Posted by DGXR
Read the cooling system sticky (top of the "general discussion" forum). Normal temp range is 190-230 F. That's why the C4 either has an oil cooler (L98 models) or requires synthetic oil (LT1/LT4 models).

I'm not yet comfortable when the engine hits those temps either, but I'm slowly getting used to it.
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My Rockauto order is in. New 180F thermostats. But the 195F stats were never above 197.
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Clean rad. fins and ac condenser, usually full of sand, dirt, bugs, leaf particles, turn on defrost when temp starts to climb at slow speeds ,at stop for a long time, turns on fan before ecm.

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A thermostat doesn't keep a engine from overheating it helps the engine get to operating temp sooner. Sounds like yours is doing what it is supposed to do
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Originally Posted by kenmohr
A thermostat doesn't keep a engine from overheating it helps the engine get to operating temp sooner. Sounds like yours is doing what it is supposed to do
Just to confirm what others have said.. I've been told several times these engines run hotter then others. My 86 holds steady at about 170 when on a run but climbs to 220/230 when idling in traffic,which is where the fan kicks in and brings it down a touch...I've also put a switch under the dash to manually switch the fan on via the relay if needed but never had to use it yet
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Originally Posted by kenmohr
A thermostat doesn't keep a engine from overheating it helps the engine get to operating temp sooner. Sounds like yours is doing what it is supposed to do
This is true....UNLESS the thermostat is malfunctioning and is not opening properly.
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Originally Posted by rocco16
This is true....UNLESS the thermostat is malfunctioning and is not opening properly.
Ran car on open highway at 70 mph and ran up to 220+ think it should run lower. Cab understand 220 when stopped in traffic, etc.
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Originally Posted by DGXR
Read the cooling system sticky (top of the "general discussion" forum). Normal temp range is 190-230 F. That's why the C4 either has an oil cooler (L98 models) or requires synthetic oil (LT1/LT4 models).

I'm not yet comfortable when the engine hits those temps either, but I'm slowly getting used to it.
Ran car on open highway at 70 mph and temp went up over 220. Think it should run cooler when AC is running. Can understand if 220 when stopped in traffic.
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Originally Posted by Renfield
180.

Have to give 180 a try. Thanks
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Originally Posted by ex-x-fire
220+ is normal at traffic jams, waiting in line at a bank, ect. 220+ is not normal at 35 mph or above.
Ran car on open highway at 70 mph and temp ran over 220. I think it should run cooler. Can understand if when stooped in traffic on l hot day Think 220+ on open road is too hot?
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Yes, you have an air flow problem. Missing air dam or blocked/clogged radiator fins.
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