I will sell you oil insurance for $50.00

 

whatever....

 

Awwww! Math don't lie.

 

can't argue - you seem to have all the answers.

 

This is an open forum. I'd be willing look at numbers from an opposite view point and let it guide me if someone could produce it. OTOH, willingness to calculate does not include gullibility

 

congratulations, you are number 5.

 

Not sure what it means. As my math and physics instructors used to say, "no working and units, no credit" since they don't know what the significance is. Still, I'd rather be in "Seven of Nine", as Jeri Ryan, if I was given a choice.

 

just thought i'd wait a day before I posted my final reply. you seem to think that by me spending $30/year, changing my oil WITHOUT an oil analysis is somehow a bad investment, that i'm throwing my money down the toilet, and somehow i'm gullible, yet you seem to justify spending money on a lap dance, and somehow, that's not throwing your money down the $hitter. in another thread, you stated;
a bit excessive. how do you know these parts and fluids are worn out? are you doing some sort of scientific, laboratory testing? seems excessive to me, and probably, 99% of the folks here. so where's the investment? just think, you could do it every two years, save $60, and get yourself another lap dance. now. there's an investment -

you seem to talk out of both sides of your face. you take insignificant comments, and turn things into some sort of pissing contest. yes, this is an open forum, but personally, i'm tired of dealing with you. my friend, you're just not worth the keystrokes.

finally, as to the number 5, you said you're not sure what it means. well, let me clarify the units - IT'S THE IGNORE LIST!

...have a good one!

 

sorry folks - just venting. back OT - mobil 1 and the rebate. purchase period is over, may 31st.

 

With the rebate it is only $10.88 for the oil (5qt jug) and I found WIX filters on sale for $4.25, so the total is only about $15 for an oil change.

To me it is not worth the hassle of sending an oil sample for analysis when it is so cheap to just change it. How long you can try to keep oil in the engine is not a priority for me, so I generally follow the manufacturer's and oil manufacturer's recommendations of at least change yearly. Cheap and easy.

 

Yes, taking a day to read up might help. Although, not so according to what you just said. I don't spend $30 a year as my calculation said. Read and REREAD. To clarify, I was recommended to do a check every few years and not every year hence the $30 savings this year and $60 the next and so on. I thought that was clear. Apparently not. To be clearer, on the 4th year, the figure drops to $30 and so on. This does not include cost increase for oil and testing. Ask if further clarification is needed.

Again, I showed you my numbers as to how I arrived at the conclusion. I haven't seen much except vitriol. Further to that, if you can consider getting dirty and wasting time disposing oil, etc "therapy", I think I would be entitled to consider a lap dance "therapy", no?

The plugs I buy are not the highly expensive ones. As to the cap and rotor, if I don't change it in spring, my May or June, there seems to be a miss at WOT that magically is cured by a new cap and rotor. The old ones I have tried cleaning the boogers off but not much life before a new cap is necessary. Plug inspection lets me know if it is burning oil or coolant BEFORE it gets too bad. And yes, I have tested gear oil and trans fluid before by a lab. Point?

And yet you spent all that time researching my previous posts? Who's talking out of both sides of their mouth now, my friend? (PS, that salutation has a hidden message)

If it was the ignore list, how did you see it? Oh, that's right. You wanted a drama situation. Never mind, how silly I missed that. But just to be sure, my usual rule of thumb is "If you aren't having sex with me or writing my check, your opinion don't matter." and I wanted to make sure before I hit it with that big a brush. What should my reaction to being #5 or put on your ignore list be? Sadness? Feeling lost? Do I need to start therapy? (Please say no because IMO, therapy is kinda of a scam)

 

Manufacturer's recommendations don't tell you if there is abnormal wear. When we lived in an apartment and didn't have tools or space (got to move car daily) I decided to change the cam to a hotter one (74219). While I was at it, why not the heads (Bad decision TFS). Obviously the cam didn't run right and the ECM had to be tuned. Had I known then what I know now, I'd have found out the engine was wearing down (IIRC about 80K+ so whoda thunk it). After several runs, the datalogging guy decided he couldn't get the knocking out of it. We took it to an oil change place and put in the heaviest weight oil with STP in it. Finally, the knocking calmed down on the datalog. I spend less than $100 in the last 10 years on engine oil analysis. Basically every 4 or 5 years to check the health of the engine as well.

So, today an analysis is $28. Isn't it cheap insurance to see if the motor is worthy of the time and money BEFORE you do it? Now you have to do it AGAIN and that first time money is down the drain. Lets say you were me. Some guy comes up to you and says "For $50, I will tell you if the motor is on the way out or not BEFORE you spend money for a professional install on heads, cam and tuning.". What would YOU do?

BTW, if I found that out today, sure, I'd beat the hell out of the motor in the last days but NFW would I drive that car out of town. I changed the trans fluid in my old car because it was slipping, drove it 6 hours away because we were doing a few job interviews in the city we were moving to. I think you can figure out what happened. I think you will believe me when the said that the service guy says "Well, this is the price for a rebuild. That or tow it out of my yard. Bend over and no lube for you.".

http://www.blackstone-labs.com/report-explanation.php

 

I agree there are good reasons to do an oil analysis. Especially if you have never done one, or are concerned about something.

However, to judge whether the oil needs changing or how long you can run the oil, I think it is a waste.

 

Just run the new mobil 1 annual oil, change once a year no matter what mileage

 

I am almost due for a change so I might just try that and have Blackstone tell me if the 20K is a bunch of horsecrap or not. If it can honestly cut me down to 1 change a year or 15K, it might just work. Frankly, I doubt it but I guess there is one way to find out.

 

YOU should do that.

 

I think I will. I probably will dump it at 6K and ask Blackstone how much further it can go. IIRC, it has been about 3 years since I last tested but no harm in accelerating the process if it can save a few bucks and more importantly, my getting oily and having to dump oil. I'll see if Wally World has it tomorrow. Supposedly they want you to use their filter so why not go all the way. I'll have to see who stocks the filter since I usually use K&N because they have the welded nut.

 

So what would you do? Save the oil and put it back in if it tests ok?

 

Probably not. Besides, like a urine test, you don't take the first bit of urine. So you let it run for a bit into the drain pan and collect a sample. Not sure I'd want to put back what has been in that drain pan. It has seen brake fluid, diesel oil, gas engine oil, motorcycle oil and who knows what else. It's about the same price as regular Mobil 1 so not sure I want to get a perfectly clean pan and keep this.

Last time I used a clean item was to boil the meat off the skull cap around the deer horn and the wife was NOT thrilled at me using her favorite pot. If I used her soup pot, I might not be back to report the findings. Not alive anyways.

 

Ok.