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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 03:20 PM
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Default Passed final e-test... what next?

Truth be told, it failed due to the gas cap. Grabbed a new one, headed right back for a retest and passed. It's next test date is in 2019 which makes the car 25 model years old and therefore exempt. It's never failed an emissions test since I've owned it but it is one less hassle and worry with maintaining an old car.

Wondering what is next...

I'd love to put a cam in it, but it runs far too well for a rebuild and I'm afraid tossing a cam in on the old bottom end might be it's demise (115k miles). So that is all but off the table, for now.

As it sits:
Lloyd Elliot Heads and Intake Manifold (have flow #s somewhere)
Short tube headers (came w/ the car)
Stock exhaust with x pipe in place of resonator, stock cats
Mezeire water pump
LTCC with LS1 ignition coils
Scorpion 1.7 roller rockers w/ hardened pushrods and guideplates
4.11 R&P
Fully rebuilt suspension - poly all around and new AC delco shocks
Rebuilt brake calipers + new pads/rotors (non J55) + SS flex hoses
DRM Brake bias spring
might be forgetting a few things but the above is most of it

It runs well and the headwork/gears have dramatically increased the seat of the pants feel. I've considered long tubes for it, but not sure I can justify the cost for the gain - especially since I'd have to get new cats.

Considering C5 front brakes as they are a cheap upgrade, but I'm not unhappy with the stock stuff, it stops well and has great pedal feel.

I'd love to give it more power but I think I've about exhausted what I can do unless I consider a rebuild. If that is the case I may either call it done and drive on or start putting some pennies aside now for a rebuild in a few years. Any thoughts?

Edit: would be helpful if I mentioned - 94, LT1, ZF6

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Old Aug 7, 2017 | 03:46 PM
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I would get that info to Lloyd Elliott and see what cam he recommends..

I vote for a cam....it doesn't have to be wild, just mild
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Old Aug 8, 2017 | 08:05 AM
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Where do you live? Because here in the shitty state of Indiana I had to have my emissions test this year and my car is 30 years old (1987) I'm gonna move to your state!

Originally Posted by jmgtp
Truth be told, it failed due to the gas cap. Grabbed a new one, headed right back for a retest and passed. It's next test date is in 2019 which makes the car 25 model years old and therefore exempt. It's never failed an emissions test since I've owned it but it is one less hassle and worry with maintaining an old car.

Wondering what is next...

I'd love to put a cam in it, but it runs far too well for a rebuild and I'm afraid tossing a cam in on the old bottom end might be it's demise (115k miles). So that is all but off the table, for now.

As it sits:
Lloyd Elliot Heads and Intake Manifold (have flow #s somewhere)
Short tube headers (came w/ the car)
Stock exhaust with x pipe in place of resonator, stock cats
Mezeire water pump
LTCC with LS1 ignition coils
Scorpion 1.7 roller rockers w/ hardened pushrods and guideplates
4.11 R&P
Fully rebuilt suspension - poly all around and new AC delco shocks
Rebuilt brake calipers + new pads/rotors (non J55) + SS flex hoses
DRM Brake bias spring
might be forgetting a few things but the above is most of it

It runs well and the headwork/gears have dramatically increased the seat of the pants feel. I've considered long tubes for it, but not sure I can justify the cost for the gain - especially since I'd have to get new cats.

Considering C5 front brakes as they are a cheap upgrade, but I'm not unhappy with the stock stuff, it stops well and has great pedal feel.

I'd love to give it more power but I think I've about exhausted what I can do unless I consider a rebuild. If that is the case I may either call it done and drive on or start putting some pennies aside now for a rebuild in a few years. Any thoughts?

Edit: would be helpful if I mentioned - 94, LT1, ZF6
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Old Aug 8, 2017 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Varoom - Vette
Where do you live? Because here in the shitty state of Indiana I had to have my emissions test this year and my car is 30 years old (1987) I'm gonna move to your state!
Connecticut - bring your checkbook! We have a tax for that!
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Old Aug 8, 2017 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jmgtp
Truth be told, it failed due to the gas cap. Grabbed a new one, headed right back for a retest and passed. It's next test date is in 2019 which makes the car 25 model years old and therefore exempt. It's never failed an emissions test since I've owned it but it is one less hassle and worry with maintaining an old car.

Wondering what is next...

I'd love to put a cam in it, but it runs far too well for a rebuild and I'm afraid tossing a cam in on the old bottom end might be it's demise (115k miles). So that is all but off the table, for now.

As it sits:
Lloyd Elliot Heads and Intake Manifold (have flow #s somewhere)
Short tube headers (came w/ the car)
Stock exhaust with x pipe in place of resonator, stock cats
Mezeire water pump
LTCC with LS1 ignition coils
Scorpion 1.7 roller rockers w/ hardened pushrods and guideplates
4.11 R&P
Fully rebuilt suspension - poly all around and new AC delco shocks
Rebuilt brake calipers + new pads/rotors (non J55) + SS flex hoses
DRM Brake bias spring
might be forgetting a few things but the above is most of it

It runs well and the headwork/gears have dramatically increased the seat of the pants feel. I've considered long tubes for it, but not sure I can justify the cost for the gain - especially since I'd have to get new cats.

Considering C5 front brakes as they are a cheap upgrade, but I'm not unhappy with the stock stuff, it stops well and has great pedal feel.

I'd love to give it more power but I think I've about exhausted what I can do unless I consider a rebuild. If that is the case I may either call it done and drive on or start putting some pennies aside now for a rebuild in a few years. Any thoughts?

Edit: would be helpful if I mentioned - 94, LT1, ZF6
time for a lightened flywheel and a SPEC stage 3 or Stage 3 plus clutch and a shortened / rebuilt shifter from ZFdoc; plus beam plates; trust me I did it and the difference is tangible.
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The clutch has been on my mind. There is a squeak/creak that I believe is the pivot arm/ball stud that I plan on addressing if and when the motor comes out. I want to stick with the DM as keeping the car quiet is important to me. I have a new disc and pressure plate ready to go in but just haven't had the need yet as the clutch doesn't slip.
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if you are going to keep manifolds wouldn spend money on a cam
yes youll feel a difference but youll get bored quick once the novelty of the lope wears off

Building a bigger motor is the way to go but keep an open mind to headers, some have EO #s on them. Careful with overlap so you can pass smog if thats going to be an issue

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No more smog - car has headers but they are short tubes into stock cats.

was debating if long tubes are worth the cost. I know many say short tubes are no better than the cast iron manifolds but for similar money a cam seems to have better gains. I know long tubes would compliment the cam as well but that also means new cats and more cost. It won't have emissions testsing again but it'd be very illegal to run without cats and cat less cars sting the nose.
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Long tubes seem to be pretty much all that is left on the table other than cam, which I'm reluctant to do because a rebuild isn't in the checkbook for now.

I run stock mufflers with an x pipe in place of resonator. The car is almost stock quiet with more gurgle all around and it's pretty mean sounding at WOT. Never drones. What sound diff will LT make? I'd still want cats too, which means bullets I believe. Would the stock mufflers keep the volume and drone in check even with LTs? Will the LTs even be worth the upgrade on a stock cam motor?
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Originally Posted by jmgtp
Long tubes seem to be pretty much all that is left on the table other than cam, which I'm reluctant to do because a rebuild isn't in the checkbook for now.

I run stock mufflers with an x pipe in place of resonator. The car is almost stock quiet with more gurgle all around and it's pretty mean sounding at WOT. Never drones. What sound diff will LT make? I'd still want cats too, which means bullets I believe. Would the stock mufflers keep the volume and drone in check even with LTs? Will the LTs even be worth the upgrade on a stock cam motor?
Some claim that headers with stock mufflers is awesome. Thats what I plan on doing
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Nothing left of my car and registered hobbyist. Basically a race car on the street for the street when it's done. (never)

Feel free to build as you wish now.
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