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Old Sep 10, 2017 | 04:55 PM
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I am looking into buying a 84 corvette for sale that i got him down to 2800 the body is in great shape other than the quarter panel it has a code for number 4 2. the brakes need somthing since they work but they dont stop like they should peddle goes to floor the headlights work but will not flip open the test drive went good when i checked under the hood after the test drive it a little smoke was coming from the driver side header area the fluids the coolant was white as water but the coolant bottle has brown all over it and the oil was normal color please help me as i do not know if i should buy this or how expensive the flip out headlights would be to fix , the check engine light or the little bit of smoke ALL HELP WOULD BE VERY VERY APPERCIATED
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I am looking into buying a 84 corvette for sale that i got him down to 2800 the body is in great shape other than the quarter panel it has a code for number 4 2. the brakes need somthing since they work but they dont stop like they should peddle goes to floor the headlights work but will not flip open the test drive went good when i checked under the hood after the test drive it a little smoke was coming from the driver side header area the fluids the coolant was white as water but the coolant bottle has brown all over it and the oil was normal color please help me as i do not know if i should buy this or how expensive the flip out headlights would be to fix , the check engine light or the little bit of smoke ALL HELP WOULD BE VERY VERY APPERCIATED
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Old Sep 10, 2017 | 05:46 PM
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Sorry about that.
I am new to the corvette world and am looking at a 1984 corvette for $2800.
The headlights do not flip open but the lights come on under the hood.
The check engine light on is for code 42
I accidentally turned on the wipers and they would not go off unless i restarted the car.
there was minimal smoke coming from the valve cover area after the test drive.
Also the coolant was fine in the bottle but could see rust on the container and brown sludge all over it.
Is this a good deal and what would you think the maintenance cost would be fixing something like this
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Old Sep 10, 2017 | 05:47 PM
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Sorry about that.
I am new to the corvette world and am looking at a 1984 corvette for $2800.
The headlights do not flip open but the lights come on under the hood.
The check engine light on is for code 42
I accidentally turned on the wipers and they would not go off unless i restarted the car.
there was minimal smoke coming from the valve cover area after the test drive.
Also the coolant was fine in the bottle but could see rust on the container and brown sludge all over it.
Is this a good deal and what would you think the maintenance cost would be fixing something like this
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Old Sep 11, 2017 | 05:57 AM
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The master cylinder for the brakes could be bad, just low on fluid or the lines have air in them. Sounds like the brakes work though so flushing the system might be all that is needed. Smoke just sounds like (as other said) oil leaking from a seal, should be easy to fix.

I'm not familiar with 84's headlights, but if the design is similar to my 96, there is a **** on each headlight motor that you can turn to flip the headlights. A lot of times the plastic bushings turn to dust, but the repair job is a fairly easy DIY with lots of youtube vids showing how to do it.

Value cover gaskets are easy DIY to replace, it's normal for a car this old to leak.

$2800 seems like a fair price and I wouldn't call the issues major. If your going to try to fix things yourself, I would budget another $500 to $1000 in for various items.
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Originally Posted by chagger32
I am looking into buying a 84 corvette for sale that i got him down to 2800 the body is in great shape other than the quarter panel it has a code for number 4 2. the brakes need somthing since they work but they dont stop like they should peddle goes to floor the headlights work but will not flip open the test drive went good when i checked under the hood after the test drive it a little smoke was coming from the driver side header area the fluids the coolant was white as water but the coolant bottle has brown all over it and the oil was normal color please help me as i do not know if i should buy this or how expensive the flip out headlights would be to fix , the check engine light or the little bit of smoke ALL HELP WOULD BE VERY VERY APPERCIATED
Huh? What's up with the quarter panel? Photos? Keep in mind this is the first year of the C4. IMO you are at the upper limits of it's value, so it had better shine like a diamond.

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Huh? What's up with the quarter panel? Photos? Keep in mind this is the first year of the C4. IMO you are at the upper limits of it's value, so it had better shine like a diamond.

This is the quarter panel damage
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This is the quarter panel damage
So that's probably a $1,500-ish fix. And that carpet?

I just replaced that rear hatch weatherstrip. $150 DIY project.

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I know that everyone is in a different economic situation and money is always an object.

That great deal $2800 is going to cost you more than double that--- if you want to make it "right." The best car advice I ever got was to find the best car I could barely afford and then scrape up a little more.

How handy are you? Labor on these cars is a back breaker if you can't fix it yourself.

More pictures help along with your goals as that determines if the car is a good value or not. You are entering into the situation with "known issues" and these are bound to be "unknown issues" as well.
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Buy it for around 2K; fix the brakes; drive it like you stole it and sell it next spring and buy a nice one. Ask for cash donations at christmas to sweeten the pot.

If it runs its worth that and more in parts so you shouldn't get burned. Just don't break it.
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None of those issues sound like a big deal. Ya know, you start shopping for 30+year old cars and you just have to expect some of this stuff. Comes with the territory.

The big questions are your budget and how handy you are with the tools?

At a glance there's probably less than a K there, easy, to fix everything I saw you mention and the people on this forum can help you do it. There's an amazing collection of corvette wisdom and experience here.

But, imo, if you want a C4 you need to be handy with the tools and have a little disposable income. (Something commensurate with three decade old toys) OR you need to be pretty well off, because you're going to have to pay someone else to fix your toy when it breaks.

So, what is your skill level and how much money do you have?

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Originally Posted by chagger32
I am new to the corvette world and am looking at a 1984 corvette for $2800.

The headlights do not flip open but the lights come on under the hood.

The check engine light on is for code 42

I accidentally turned on the wipers and they would not go off unless i restarted the car.

there was minimal smoke coming from the valve cover area after the test drive.

Also the coolant was fine in the bottle but could see rust on the container and brown sludge all over it.

Is this a good deal and what would you think the maintenance cost would be fixing something like this
84 is Crossfire. If I were in the market for a C4, I'd pass on that. I'm not sure if you can even get a scanner on that thing. I heard 87 couldn't so if I can't put a scanner on it, diagnostic work is going to be harder.

84 doesn't have bushings. The gears could be broken or the motor dead. Turn the actuator **** and see if it even moves. When you turn on the lights, does the motor even make noise and I'd also listen when turned off. If it doesn't, you may be looking at a new pair of motors. That or module which is unobtainium so you have to scrounge around for junkyard ones which probably aren't in much better shape.

When you disconnect the electronic advance, the light comes on. If it doesn't go off, you have a consistent problem. Might be a broken wire in which case you have to go hunt it down.

Hopefully it is a bad switch.

Looks like the good part of the car. Have you tested compression and leakdown? Do that first.

At best, it is a full flush and flush and flush.

You mentioned the oil was normal color. Doesn't impress me much. For all we know, he dumped drained the oil and refilled it to impress the buyer.

All in all, I'd either pass or figure out what the junkyard offers you for scrap metal and offer that or $2000, whichever is less.
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My first Corvette purchase was a '84. I bought it for $5000 and still have it. It needed some work, but not as much as you are describing.

The headlights issue could be the relays that turn the motors. After you checked that the plastic **** under each headlight turns the headlights to their proper position, check the relays. The relays are located on the driver's side wheelwell under a metal cover.

The problem with purchasing a C4 with issues is you will probably spend a lot of money to get it back to decent shape. As I mentioned, I purchased my '84 for $5000, but I have nearly $12,000 in to it. I replaced much of the interior, the dying DN4+3 with a Tremec and added a Vetteaid analog dash cluster.

With my second C4, I was a lot smarter and purchased a very clean '91 that needed nothing. I still love my '84. It was a lot of fun to work on. I'll probably end up keeping it because of all the money I have in it.

Good luck if you do buy this one.
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The problem with purchasing a C4 with issues is you will probably spend a lot of money to get it back to decent shape. As I mentioned, I purchased my '84 for $5000, but I have nearly $12,000 in to it. I replaced much of the interior, the dying DN4+3 with a Tremec and added a Vetteaid analog dash cluster.

With my second C4, I was a lot smarter and purchased a very clean '91 that needed nothing. I still love my '84. It was a lot of fun to work on. I'll probably end up keeping it because of all the money I have in it.

Good luck if you do buy this one.
Therein lies the issue. When you buy a car that has to be restored, you have to basically evaluate the cost, double that amount and be prepared to keep it forever. You probably will never get your money back which is where I am at. And that is exactly why I have to run it into the ground before I go buying something newer.
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88 and up has improved shock towers, easier to fit wheel offsets, and maybe more. '90 new interior design , slanted radiator and some small tweaks most people don't even know about.

'91 newer c4 body style but tpi engine.
'92 lt1 car 300hp
'95-'96 most improved c4 there is.
'96 option lt4 330hp

Good luck and GET AWAY FROM THIS ONE!
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Good luck and GET AWAY FROM THIS ONE!
Yeah, I tend to agree.
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You probably will never get your money back.
If you want to buy a car that is guaranteed to loose you a lot of money, with no chance of ever getting it back, buy a new C7!

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Originally Posted by pologreen1
Good luck and GET AWAY FROM THIS ONE!
That says it all.
She's a money pit and will most likely leave you stranded somewhere.

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