Spark plug wires and retainersm, lack of info
#1
Instructor
Thread Starter
Spark plug wires and retainersm, lack of info
My next project is to change out my plugs since I am at 85,000 and no record of them being changed in the last 12 years. I figured I would change out the plug wires also and looking at those wire retainers wonder if they will survive after 21 years.
Mid America Motor Works shows a kit with 2 4 wire, 2 3 wire and 2 2 wire retainers but I see 2 4 wire retainers on the passenger side alone with another 4 wire retainer for the driver's side bank coming off the Omni... they don't even list the size of the wire retainers.
Now if memory serves me correct the original plug wires are 7 MM correct? Then I need 7 mm retainer clips. I don't believe I have seen 8 mm clips available. SO back to my original question...
I believe this kit will NOT be sufficient to replace the complete plug wire retainer set. I was at my GM dealer and one of the part numbers for the retainers are no longer made. Maybe I am just a worry wirt, but my thought was at the age of the clips they are most likely to be brittle and break.
Am I worrying too much?
Mid America Motor Works shows a kit with 2 4 wire, 2 3 wire and 2 2 wire retainers but I see 2 4 wire retainers on the passenger side alone with another 4 wire retainer for the driver's side bank coming off the Omni... they don't even list the size of the wire retainers.
Now if memory serves me correct the original plug wires are 7 MM correct? Then I need 7 mm retainer clips. I don't believe I have seen 8 mm clips available. SO back to my original question...
I believe this kit will NOT be sufficient to replace the complete plug wire retainer set. I was at my GM dealer and one of the part numbers for the retainers are no longer made. Maybe I am just a worry wirt, but my thought was at the age of the clips they are most likely to be brittle and break.
Am I worrying too much?
#2
Safety Car
My next project is to change out my plugs since I am at 85,000 and no record of them being changed in the last 12 years. I figured I would change out the plug wires also and looking at those wire retainers wonder if they will survive after 21 years.
Maybe I am just a worry wart, but my thought was at the age of the clips they are most likely to be brittle and break.
Maybe I am just a worry wart, but my thought was at the age of the clips they are most likely to be brittle and break.
#3
Melting Slicks
I'll be replacing the plugs and wires within a year or so, and I am not worried about the retainers breaking. Nearly everything I have read says to pry on the release carefully and it will open. Just be sure you are prying the right part. And even if I do break one or two, I'll just zip tie the wire(s) to the retainer. But also, my car is pretty but it's certainly not a show car and I don't care all that much about underhood appearances. Although I will say, that picture posted by Bow Tie Guy sets a new standard... all in good fun
Last edited by DGXR; 06-19-2017 at 04:37 PM.
#4
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#5
Instructor
Thread Starter
no need for retainers, retainers are for scheisters
you just find the nearest anicular component and carefully drape the plug wire over and or around it
We need a plug wire wall of shame, with tinted tailights
https://images.craigslist.org/00I0I_...Y8_600x450.jpg
you just find the nearest anicular component and carefully drape the plug wire over and or around it
We need a plug wire wall of shame, with tinted tailights
https://images.craigslist.org/00I0I_...Y8_600x450.jpg
#6
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Thread Starter
I'll be replacing the plugs and wires within a year or so, and I am not worried about the retainers breaking. Nearly everything I have read says to pry on the release carefully and it will open. Just be sure you are prying the right part. And even if I do break one or two, I'll just zip tie the wire(s) to the retainer. But also, my car is pretty but it's certainly not a show car and I don't care all that much about underhood appearances. Although I will say, that picture posted by Bow Tie Guy sets a new standard... all in good fun
#7
Burning Brakes
You can find most of them if you start your search with a good parts catalog so you can locate the correct GM part numbers. I was able to find all but the one below the power steering pump. E-bay can be a friend but you need to know the part numbers and what they look like. Taking pictures of what you have on your 96 is a good place to start.
#8
Melting Slicks
My next project is to change out my plugs since I am at 85,000 and no record of them being changed in the last 12 years. I figured I would change out the plug wires also and looking at those wire retainers wonder if they will survive after 21 years.
Mid America Motor Works shows a kit with 2 4 wire, 2 3 wire and 2 2 wire retainers but I see 2 4 wire retainers on the passenger side alone with another 4 wire retainer for the driver's side bank coming off the Omni... they don't even list the size of the wire retainers.
Now if memory serves me correct the original plug wires are 7 MM correct? Then I need 7 mm retainer clips. I don't believe I have seen 8 mm clips available. SO back to my original question...
I believe this kit will NOT be sufficient to replace the complete plug wire retainer set. I was at my GM dealer and one of the part numbers for the retainers are no longer made. Maybe I am just a worry wirt, but my thought was at the age of the clips they are most likely to be brittle and break.
Am I worrying too much?
Mid America Motor Works shows a kit with 2 4 wire, 2 3 wire and 2 2 wire retainers but I see 2 4 wire retainers on the passenger side alone with another 4 wire retainer for the driver's side bank coming off the Omni... they don't even list the size of the wire retainers.
Now if memory serves me correct the original plug wires are 7 MM correct? Then I need 7 mm retainer clips. I don't believe I have seen 8 mm clips available. SO back to my original question...
I believe this kit will NOT be sufficient to replace the complete plug wire retainer set. I was at my GM dealer and one of the part numbers for the retainers are no longer made. Maybe I am just a worry wirt, but my thought was at the age of the clips they are most likely to be brittle and break.
Am I worrying too much?
Standard ignition leads will be fine, for the lead clips have a look at corvette central they have reproduction lead clips.
PS always a good idea to post the year of your vette
#9
ALSO, for wire retaining clips, dorman has replacements (part number 40295 - each package contains two, 4-wire clips -- four packages should do a standard L98 car) - note for the 2-wire clips, I cut a 4-wire clip in half with a small xacto saw. for the 2-wire clips, you only need the wire holder part and discard the locking clip. shop around for the best price - available locally and on-line. you can get real creative and solve the problem without spending a bunch of cash. probably do your whole car for what GM will charge you for a single part (if available).
in fact, check out google images for what's out there...
https://www.google.com/search?q=dorm...=1496147165754
making two parts from a dorman one part...
Last edited by Joe C; 06-20-2017 at 04:47 AM.
#10
Le Mans Master
no need for retainers, retainers are for scheisters
you just find the nearest anicular component and carefully drape the plug wire over and or around it
We need a plug wire wall of shame, with tinted tailights
https://images.craigslist.org/00I0I_...Y8_600x450.jpg
you just find the nearest anicular component and carefully drape the plug wire over and or around it
We need a plug wire wall of shame, with tinted tailights
https://images.craigslist.org/00I0I_...Y8_600x450.jpg
#11
Cruising
1994 C4 LT1 spark plug wire retainers
These are the original wire sets with retainers completely stock.
ALSO, for wire retaining clips, dorman has replacements (part number 40295 - each package contains two, 4-wire clips -- four packages should do a standard L98 car) - note for the 2-wire clips, I cut a 4-wire clip in half with a small xacto saw. for the 2-wire clips, you only need the wire holder part and discard the locking clip. shop around for the best price - available locally and on-line. you can get real creative and solve the problem without spending a bunch of cash. probably do your whole car for what GM will charge you for a single part (if available).
in fact, check out google images for what's out there...
https://www.google.com/search?q=dorm...=1496147165754
making two parts from a dorman one part...
ALSO, for wire retaining clips, dorman has replacements (part number 40295 - each package contains two, 4-wire clips -- four packages should do a standard L98 car) - note for the 2-wire clips, I cut a 4-wire clip in half with a small xacto saw. for the 2-wire clips, you only need the wire holder part and discard the locking clip. shop around for the best price - available locally and on-line. you can get real creative and solve the problem without spending a bunch of cash. probably do your whole car for what GM will charge you for a single part (if available).
in fact, check out google images for what's out there...
https://www.google.com/search?q=dorm...=1496147165754
making two parts from a dorman one part...
#12
Cruising
The forward most 4 wire retainer on the drivers side fits on the metal bracket at a right angle to bend all 4 wires under the water pump and to the opti. All other clips fit straight onto the metal brackets. Look at the difference between how that one clip sits in relation to the wires as opposed to the other 4 wire clips. One 4 wire clip on the passenger side is used for just two wires.
#13
Instructor
When I got my 93 coupe almost 3 years ago, one of the 1st things I noticed amiss was that the plug wires were kinda held in place with nylon wire ties. I bought two kits, one I think from Ecklers and one from Mammotor. Neither one faintly looked like it was for an LT1. After much searching and looking at reference pictures I finally got most of the pieces I needed.
I'm posting this because there have been two posts about this in the past several months, but I couldn't offer any help because the GM parts bags were misplaced.
I purchased- 4 ea part #12132272 4 hole clips $5.91 ea.
4 ea part #12132229 2 hole clips $1.58 ea.
I'm still needing the clip under the PS reservoir. I found pics and part # online at http://www.tonkinonlineparts.com/sho...roduct=6155126.
I'm posting this because there have been two posts about this in the past several months, but I couldn't offer any help because the GM parts bags were misplaced.
I purchased- 4 ea part #12132272 4 hole clips $5.91 ea.
4 ea part #12132229 2 hole clips $1.58 ea.
I'm still needing the clip under the PS reservoir. I found pics and part # online at http://www.tonkinonlineparts.com/sho...roduct=6155126.
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Not to worry I used OEM clips on 8mm MSD wires. Found em on ebay for reasonable $$ and bought a few extras just in case...
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