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Old 10-30-2018, 05:58 AM
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I'll throw a monkey wrench in. Compare with the stats of a 2001 - 2006 BMW M3, now which one?
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Old 10-30-2018, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg Gore View Post
I'll throw a monkey wrench in. Compare with the stats of a 2001 - 2006 BMW M3, now which one?
Easy choice. A ZR-1.

A sport sedan has even less sense of occasion than a boringly styled sports car (C5).



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Old 10-30-2018, 07:24 AM
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buy a 64, tri power, 4 speed , black GTO. Prices on the c5 are still falling
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Old 10-30-2018, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Space387 View Post
Aklim the OBD1 port was used up to 1994. Most 95 cars got the hybrid obd1 system with an obd2 port. For the obd1 cars you can scan and data log with obvious limitations in bandwidth similar to the obd2 cars. I was actually out a few weeks ago streaming from my 90.

And yea Zak said it best, its all about the feeling of an occasion.
Good to know. So how do you scan 95? With 96 you are. OBD2 so a normal scanner will work So with 95 you need to have an OBD1 scanner with an OBD2 plug?
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Old 10-30-2018, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg Gore View Post
I'll throw a monkey wrench in. Compare with the stats of a 2001 - 2006 BMW M3, now which one?
Not a BMW....if that is what you were getting at. (?)
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Old 10-30-2018, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim View Post
Good to know. So how do you scan 95? With 96 you are. OBD2 so a normal scanner will work So with 95 you need to have an OBD1 scanner with an OBD2 plug?

Ak u can buy an aldl cable with an ob2 style that is actually for obd1.

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Old 10-31-2018, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom400CFI View Post
Not a BMW....if that is what you were getting at. (?)
Would a C4 or C5 turn in better lap times than an M3?
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Old 10-31-2018, 10:45 AM
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Would a C4 or C5 turn in better lap times than an M3?
According to the M3 folks, the vette wins. Street, track or strip. But they like their back seat and generally don't seem to think much of Corvette drivers.

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=433964
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Old 10-31-2018, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Greg Gore View Post
Would a C4 or C5 turn in better lap times than an M3?
The better question is, who cares? Do you want a sports car or a race car?

But check this video to see a ZR-1 eating a Porsche, Mercedes and some BMWs along the way:


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Old 10-31-2018, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg Gore View Post
Would a C4 or C5 turn in better lap times than an M3?
A C5 will run faster laps than an E46 M3, hands down. A base, stock, '92 C4 will run just about the same as an E46 M3. How do I know? I've tracked my '92 with my best friend who had an '04 M3. They were neck and neck, all day long. Only diff was that his oil temps was over 300* and mine was ~280....his car is probably easier to drive at the limit, my car is more fun.

But what's it matter; is the OP tracking his car against other cars or against a clock? If not, buy the car that is more FUN.
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Old 10-31-2018, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Space387 View Post
Aklim the OBD1 port was used up to 1994. Most 95 cars got the hybrid obd1 system with an obd2 port. For the obd1 cars you can scan and data log with obvious limitations in bandwidth similar to the obd2 cars. I was actually out a few weeks ago streaming from my 90.

And yea Zak said it best, its all about the feeling of an occasion.
93 was the last year for the obd1 plug. Yes I have been reading real time data on my 93 for years on my phone.
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 1993C4LT1 View Post
93 was the last year for the obd1 plug. Yes I have been reading real time data on my 93 for years on my phone.
So it is 94, 95 that you have to have the OBD2 plug but OBD1 software and 96 is full OBD2 then?
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Old 11-01-2018, 07:31 PM
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Yes correct
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Old 11-01-2018, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 1993C4LT1 View Post
Yes correct
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Old 11-07-2018, 03:02 PM
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This is a great thread, appreciate the OP for starting it, and everyone's opinion - I've read every one, and it's made me think.

I've had a C4 and C5, and have test driven a handful of C6's so far. Every time I get out of a C6, I think for the money, it's not that much better. Then I think how much I miss my C4. I'm actually holding back from going to look at used C4's, as I know It'll will be hard to resist.
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ShagVette View Post
This is a great thread, appreciate the OP for starting it, and everyone's opinion - I've read every one, and it's made me think.

I've had a C4 and C5, and have test driven a handful of C6's so far. Every time I get out of a C6, I think for the money, it's not that much better. Then I think how much I miss my C4. I'm actually holding back from going to look at used C4's, as I know It'll will be hard to resist.
Why?
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Old 11-07-2018, 06:43 PM
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What part, why I'm not going to look at any right now? - my garage is full, and I'd rather keep one inside.
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Old 11-08-2018, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ShagVette View Post
What part, why I'm not going to look at any right now? - my garage is full, and I'd rather keep one inside.
Why would you want an older vehicle over a newer model? There's a reason for the price difference ...
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:28 PM
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That's been covered several times in just this thread alone. Older vehicle=more fun, in some people's opinions.

Also realize that even older vehicles have a higher price. What's the reason for that price difference?
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Old 11-08-2018, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cool Runnings View Post
Why would you want an older vehicle over a newer model? There's a reason for the price difference ...
Considering the price difference of say a 04 C5 vs. a 07 C6 - to me at least, the minimal performance increase doesn't equal the thousands of dollars.
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