How much are Callaway C4s selling for these days?
11-02-2018, 03:39 PM
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How much are Callaway C4s selling for these days?
How much are Callaway AeroBody C4s selling for these days? I'm not sure how many were made and they don't seem to be easy to track. I saw Callaway C4s for even as low as $10K price. So not that much more than a normal C4. But not the Aerobody cars. Mainly the 1987-89 cars it seems.
I know the Speedster are high up in price since there were only about 10 made. But I'm talking the normal AeroBody coupes.
I saw an expired 2018 list on Ebay for a 91 Aerobody coupe for $52K. But I'm not sure it sold for that and it was a convertible. So I would think it's more expensive than the coupes. Then I saw an old Craig list for one for $6k. But this one may be just a car with the AeroBody. So not easy to track prices down.
Reason I'm asking is because I like the look a lot. But given the extreme high price for a new kit from Callaway, I'm considering other venues to get one. Interested to know how much a whole car would cost used.
I saw a full kit sans light lenses and mounting brackets sold on ebay this year for only $3250. But I doubt they come up very often. So I'm also considering replicating the kit myself. The good thing about building the car instead of buying an original Callaway is that if I do end up building it, I will probably go all the way and build a Speedster clone.
But that depends how much the Aerobody cars sell for. It might not be worse going through the expense and trouble of replicating the kit depending how much the originals sell for.
At any rate I'm positive the kit can be done for way bellow the quoted price of $18K for a new one. And at least I will have easy replacements if somebody hits me.
I can only imagine how much a replacement nose costs if you get into an accident with your Aerobody. I saw only the front lenses being quoted at $1k in an older thread here from a couple of years back. And that was when a full new kit was quoted at $8K and a fully installed and painted kit quoted at $15K. I think this was in 2014. Now just the kit more than doubled in price. So a nose with lenses is probably close to $5K! If I replicate the kit I will also not be afraid to drive it and be hit. I can actually enjoy the car.
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I know the Speedster are high up in price since there were only about 10 made. But I'm talking the normal AeroBody coupes.
I saw an expired 2018 list on Ebay for a 91 Aerobody coupe for $52K. But I'm not sure it sold for that and it was a convertible. So I would think it's more expensive than the coupes. Then I saw an old Craig list for one for $6k. But this one may be just a car with the AeroBody. So not easy to track prices down.
Reason I'm asking is because I like the look a lot. But given the extreme high price for a new kit from Callaway, I'm considering other venues to get one. Interested to know how much a whole car would cost used.
I saw a full kit sans light lenses and mounting brackets sold on ebay this year for only $3250. But I doubt they come up very often. So I'm also considering replicating the kit myself. The good thing about building the car instead of buying an original Callaway is that if I do end up building it, I will probably go all the way and build a Speedster clone.
But that depends how much the Aerobody cars sell for. It might not be worse going through the expense and trouble of replicating the kit depending how much the originals sell for.
At any rate I'm positive the kit can be done for way bellow the quoted price of $18K for a new one. And at least I will have easy replacements if somebody hits me.
I can only imagine how much a replacement nose costs if you get into an accident with your Aerobody. I saw only the front lenses being quoted at $1k in an older thread here from a couple of years back. And that was when a full new kit was quoted at $8K and a fully installed and painted kit quoted at $15K. I think this was in 2014. Now just the kit more than doubled in price. So a nose with lenses is probably close to $5K! If I replicate the kit I will also not be afraid to drive it and be hit. I can actually enjoy the car.
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11-02-2018, 05:28 PM
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Price depends heavily upon condition. I do not know of any 1989 stock body Callaway's which have sold for under $25k which were not wrecked.
Some 1988s, perhaps, and 1987 cars are around or somewhat under $20k. Adding the AeroBody in the past added at least $10k to the value. But on good cars, it's more. A 1991 convertible recently sold for $49k
Now, for the rest of your statement about replicating the AeroBody. The design is intellectual property. Replicating it would end up costing you a lot more than a bunch of fiberglass. We've been down this road with a contractor before. It did not work in their favor.
So you don't like the price of $18k for the unpainted body, I wish it were less or could be produced for less. But it can't. not for the quality one would expect. We also do not sell individual pieces. Just the whole kit. And replacement parts are sold to only documented owners.
Now this might come off bit gruff, and maybe it is. I mean, you came to this site, asked questions, and when you say you don't like the price, you suggest "stealing" a design. Not cool.
Some 1988s, perhaps, and 1987 cars are around or somewhat under $20k. Adding the AeroBody in the past added at least $10k to the value. But on good cars, it's more. A 1991 convertible recently sold for $49k
Now, for the rest of your statement about replicating the AeroBody. The design is intellectual property. Replicating it would end up costing you a lot more than a bunch of fiberglass. We've been down this road with a contractor before. It did not work in their favor.
So you don't like the price of $18k for the unpainted body, I wish it were less or could be produced for less. But it can't. not for the quality one would expect. We also do not sell individual pieces. Just the whole kit. And replacement parts are sold to only documented owners.
Now this might come off bit gruff, and maybe it is. I mean, you came to this site, asked questions, and when you say you don't like the price, you suggest "stealing" a design. Not cool.
11-02-2018, 05:50 PM
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Price depends heavily upon condition. I do not know of any 1989 stock body Callaway's which have sold for under $25k which were not wrecked.
Some 1988s, perhaps, and 1987 cars are around or somewhat under $20k. Adding the AeroBody in the past added at least $10k to the value. But on good cars, it's more. A 1991 convertible recently sold for $49k
Now, for the rest of your statement about replicating the AeroBody. The design is intellectual property. Replicating it would end up costing you a lot more than a bunch of fiberglass. We've been down this road with a contractor before. It did not work in their favor.
So you don't like the price of $18k for the unpainted body, I wish it were less or could be produced for less. But it can't. not for the quality one would expect. We also do not sell individual pieces. Just the whole kit. And replacement parts are sold to only documented owners.
Now this might come off bit gruff, and maybe it is. I mean, you came to this site, asked questions, and when you say you don't like the price, you suggest "stealing" a design. Not cool.
Some 1988s, perhaps, and 1987 cars are around or somewhat under $20k. Adding the AeroBody in the past added at least $10k to the value. But on good cars, it's more. A 1991 convertible recently sold for $49k
Now, for the rest of your statement about replicating the AeroBody. The design is intellectual property. Replicating it would end up costing you a lot more than a bunch of fiberglass. We've been down this road with a contractor before. It did not work in their favor.
So you don't like the price of $18k for the unpainted body, I wish it were less or could be produced for less. But it can't. not for the quality one would expect. We also do not sell individual pieces. Just the whole kit. And replacement parts are sold to only documented owners.
Now this might come off bit gruff, and maybe it is. I mean, you came to this site, asked questions, and when you say you don't like the price, you suggest "stealing" a design. Not cool.
It's not a matter of not liking the price. It's a matter of not making sense to put a $18K kit on a car which is worth severely less than that. It makes no financial sense.
As for intellectual property, designs such as cars have a 25 years life. This is now expired. This is the reason anybody can replicate KITT from Knight Rider, the Batmobiles from the TV show and from the 1989 Michael Keaton movie and neither NBC or WB can do anything about it. They can't call it Batmobile. But they can surely make and commercialize the kit. Same with Countach replicas, DB5 replicas etc. It's not illegal to make a replica.
But like I said, I have absolutely no interest in selling it. It would only cheapen my own car and the original Callaways. I have too much respect for Callaway for that. And it would not even be worth it cheapening the car for such little money as nobody would pay much for this kit anyway at this point.
Believe me, if I was some millionaire I would hunt down a Speedster. If I had enough money to spare I would just buy the $18K kit and put it on a $15K car. But this is not the case. I can't justify that.
Besides at this point it's all just speculation anyways. I might also just make a design which is inspired by it rather than 100% accurate. At this point is just an idea. Sometimes I think about getting a ZR-1 and be done with it. Other times I think about getting a standard C4 and do a LS swap and build from there. This is just another idea at this point.
11-03-2018, 05:13 AM
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Chevro...Jb02Qa&vxp=mtr
From what I have seen this is the range non AeroBody Callaways seem to be selling for.
11-03-2018, 07:18 AM
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Hmm, that very same car just sold for half this price on ebay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Chevro...Jb02Qa&vxp=mtr
From what I have seen this is the range non AeroBody Callaways seem to be selling for.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-Chevro...Jb02Qa&vxp=mtr
From what I have seen this is the range non AeroBody Callaways seem to be selling for.
No. it did not sell. It was RNM in the auction.
11-03-2018, 08:05 AM
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Oh yes, I missed that.
But that just means nobody is willing to pay more for it at this point. One can list a car for as much as he wishes. But the real market value is the price buyers are willing to pay for it.
I saw a 1987 Callaway selling for under 15K somewhere online for example.
But that just means nobody is willing to pay more for it at this point. One can list a car for as much as he wishes. But the real market value is the price buyers are willing to pay for it.
I saw a 1987 Callaway selling for under 15K somewhere online for example.
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11-03-2018, 10:23 AM
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Oh yes, I missed that.
But that just means nobody is willing to pay more for it at this point. One can list a car for as much as he wishes. But the real market value is the price buyers are willing to pay for it.
I saw a 1987 Callaway selling for under 15K somewhere online for example.
But that just means nobody is willing to pay more for it at this point. One can list a car for as much as he wishes. But the real market value is the price buyers are willing to pay for it.
I saw a 1987 Callaway selling for under 15K somewhere online for example.
Did you "miss that" or are you not clear on how auctions work?
eBay is arguably one of the biggest marketplaces for vehicles, but how many actually sell "on" eBay? I have sold a few vehicles on and off eBay. It's been good exposure, but rarely closed a deal using the site. An example of this was a car I sold (old muscle car) which got a "high bid" and RMN @ $50,000. Had several messages through eBay's "offer" system for about the same. But also got a call from the ad, and closed the deal at $59,000. Having let the auction expire at a RMN (for $50k), you might argue that's "the price", which it wasn't.
Another car I sold (Ford Sedan), most were selling for under $10,000, and if I lumped mine in with the poorly kept examples, I could have settled. But I got $16,000 for mine. That one, I closed the deal locally, but came from the eBay listing.
Now, back to the dark red B2K you referenced as "selling for $15k", which you "missed" the RNM. Does the dealer have other offers in the background? Was there no real money last week, or whenever the auction ran? In other words, was the ad noticed?
The real price isn't far off from $15k for an 87 coupe, and those wheels are not helping. It's probably a $19k-$22k car. I'd have to see it in person to see if it needed anything typical of a 32 year old C4. But to say, as you have, you saw an 87 selling for under $15k, as if that's the price on all, is just silly. It would be like me showing you the 1988 coupe which sold for ~$65k and then the next month, flipped for $75k. Nice profit, and well sold, but not the barometer for ALL 1988 B2Ks.
I know of two cars (both 1987 models) which sold for under $15k. and both needed work. Good news, is the B2K is like any other C4 for the majority of parts/consumables, so maintenance is straightforward.
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11-03-2018, 06:39 PM
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Did you "miss that" or are you not clear on how auctions work?
eBay is arguably one of the biggest marketplaces for vehicles, but how many actually sell "on" eBay? I have sold a few vehicles on and off eBay. It's been good exposure, but rarely closed a deal using the site. An example of this was a car I sold (old muscle car) which got a "high bid" and RMN @ $50,000. Had several messages through eBay's "offer" system for about the same. But also got a call from the ad, and closed the deal at $59,000. Having let the auction expire at a RMN (for $50k), you might argue that's "the price", which it wasn't.
Another car I sold (Ford Sedan), most were selling for under $10,000, and if I lumped mine in with the poorly kept examples, I could have settled. But I got $16,000 for mine. That one, I closed the deal locally, but came from the eBay listing.
Now, back to the dark red B2K you referenced as "selling for $15k", which you "missed" the RNM. Does the dealer have other offers in the background? Was there no real money last week, or whenever the auction ran? In other words, was the ad noticed?
The real price isn't far off from $15k for an 87 coupe, and those wheels are not helping. It's probably a $19k-$22k car. I'd have to see it in person to see if it needed anything typical of a 32 year old C4. But to say, as you have, you saw an 87 selling for under $15k, as if that's the price on all, is just silly. It would be like me showing you the 1988 coupe which sold for ~$65k and then the next month, flipped for $75k. Nice profit, and well sold, but not the barometer for ALL 1988 B2Ks.
I know of two cars (both 1987 models) which sold for under $15k. and both needed work. Good news, is the B2K is like any other C4 for the majority of parts/consumables, so maintenance is straightforward.
eBay is arguably one of the biggest marketplaces for vehicles, but how many actually sell "on" eBay? I have sold a few vehicles on and off eBay. It's been good exposure, but rarely closed a deal using the site. An example of this was a car I sold (old muscle car) which got a "high bid" and RMN @ $50,000. Had several messages through eBay's "offer" system for about the same. But also got a call from the ad, and closed the deal at $59,000. Having let the auction expire at a RMN (for $50k), you might argue that's "the price", which it wasn't.
Another car I sold (Ford Sedan), most were selling for under $10,000, and if I lumped mine in with the poorly kept examples, I could have settled. But I got $16,000 for mine. That one, I closed the deal locally, but came from the eBay listing.
Now, back to the dark red B2K you referenced as "selling for $15k", which you "missed" the RNM. Does the dealer have other offers in the background? Was there no real money last week, or whenever the auction ran? In other words, was the ad noticed?
The real price isn't far off from $15k for an 87 coupe, and those wheels are not helping. It's probably a $19k-$22k car. I'd have to see it in person to see if it needed anything typical of a 32 year old C4. But to say, as you have, you saw an 87 selling for under $15k, as if that's the price on all, is just silly. It would be like me showing you the 1988 coupe which sold for ~$65k and then the next month, flipped for $75k. Nice profit, and well sold, but not the barometer for ALL 1988 B2Ks.
I know of two cars (both 1987 models) which sold for under $15k. and both needed work. Good news, is the B2K is like any other C4 for the majority of parts/consumables, so maintenance is straightforward.
Did you read my opening post? I specifically mentioned I saw prices at both ends of the spectrum, high and low, which made it difficult to gather an average. If you have an answer to the actual question in the opening post, why not post it instead of a rant about nothing.
For the record I have zero interest in C4 Callaways without the AeroBody.
11-03-2018, 06:57 PM
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I was looking for exactly the same as you, however, my choice was for either a 1987 or 1991 with Aerobody for personal reasons.
This made it even more difficult as the Aerobody wasn't originally available on the '87 - so it had to be an original callaway with the Aerobody fitted.
Finally found one (1987, also had Callaway wheels), cost me more than it would USA residents as I have to ship it to Australia, pay duty, import taxes etc.
1991's are typically more desirable and more $$ than 1987's, but any half decent 1987 one will be mid to high 20's, I'd have to think
There is a 1991 Aerobody for sale here in Australia for A$170,000 to $180,000!
Doubt he will ever get that kind of $$
The lowest I'd let mine go would be for a number close to US$55,000.
But I'm not desperate to sell - that figure would encourage me to sell
A desperate seller would obviously accept less
So you're looking for desperate seller with a C4 Callaway with Aerobody......quite a difficult task indeed!
If we were to use the maroon one as a reference, with correct wheels and aerobody (fitted and painted to match) added to the $30K price tag, you're probably looking at the wrong side of $50K
This made it even more difficult as the Aerobody wasn't originally available on the '87 - so it had to be an original callaway with the Aerobody fitted.
Finally found one (1987, also had Callaway wheels), cost me more than it would USA residents as I have to ship it to Australia, pay duty, import taxes etc.
1991's are typically more desirable and more $$ than 1987's, but any half decent 1987 one will be mid to high 20's, I'd have to think
There is a 1991 Aerobody for sale here in Australia for A$170,000 to $180,000!
Doubt he will ever get that kind of $$
The lowest I'd let mine go would be for a number close to US$55,000.
But I'm not desperate to sell - that figure would encourage me to sell
A desperate seller would obviously accept less
So you're looking for desperate seller with a C4 Callaway with Aerobody......quite a difficult task indeed!
If we were to use the maroon one as a reference, with correct wheels and aerobody (fitted and painted to match) added to the $30K price tag, you're probably looking at the wrong side of $50K
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11-03-2018, 07:14 PM
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Where did you see it? What configuration? Condition? Or was this another eBay auction that didn’t meet reserve?
Now, to your question of whether or not I can read? Answer is yes, just fine. Thanks
11-03-2018, 07:17 PM
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Apologies if I wasn't clear enough.
The orginal owner purchased a new 1987 Callaway (in 1987), then a few years later, when the Aerobody became commercially available, he had the body fitted and painted...(probably had the callaway wheels fitted also)
I bought the car about 4 years ago and all I have done is maintain it and brought it back to its best
The guy chasing that kind of $$ wont get it.
The Callaway isn't as well known in Australia as it is in USA
I think he paid top $$ for it out of a museum in USA...
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11-03-2018, 07:26 PM
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Apologies if I wasn't clear enough.
The orginal owner purchased a new 1987 Callaway (in 1987), then a few years later, when the Aerobody became commercially available, he had the body fitted and painted...(probably had the callaway wheels fitted also)
I bought the car about 4 years ago and all I have done is maintain it and brought it back to its best
The guy chasing that kind of $$ wont get it.
The Callaway isn't as well known in Australia as it is in USA
I think he paid top $$ for it out of a museum in USA...
Apologies if I wasn't clear enough.
The orginal owner purchased a new 1987 Callaway (in 1987), then a few years later, when the Aerobody became commercially available, he had the body fitted and painted...(probably had the callaway wheels fitted also)
I bought the car about 4 years ago and all I have done is maintain it and brought it back to its best
The guy chasing that kind of $$ wont get it.
The Callaway isn't as well known in Australia as it is in USA
I think he paid top $$ for it out of a museum in USA...
In these 4 years, did you see the prices climbing a lot? Although your car is a specific case and hard to judge as normally 1987 models don't come with the AeroBody.
P.S. Post some pictures of it if you can.
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11-03-2018, 09:04 PM
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Wow, you were lucky then to find just what you were looking for.
In these 4 years, did you see the prices climbing a lot? Although your car is a specific case and hard to judge as normally 1987 models don't come with the AeroBody.
P.S. Post some pictures of it if you can.
In these 4 years, did you see the prices climbing a lot? Although your car is a specific case and hard to judge as normally 1987 models don't come with the AeroBody.
P.S. Post some pictures of it if you can.
They certainly haven't gone down in price.
No offence to the seller, but the one that was passed in for $15K on Ebay and for sale at $30K elsewhere, would be at the low end of desirable vehicles (in my mind!!)
What this means, is that you probably will need to pay a premium for a good one, given the limited number built and then the limited number actually for sale.
There will be a difference from 1987 to 1991 in the "same quality" Callaway's with Aerobody's, with a 1991 aerobody probably demanding the highest price.
I just cant see a half decent genuine callaway WITH aerobody being for sale at less than $40K - this is just my opinion however
11-03-2018, 09:40 PM
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Same site has 4 other callaways' - not one under $65K!!!
Very low miles, may have to reassess my estimates...
Have to think these are top end cars?
Good quality ones wont be less than 1/2 these prices (you'd expect) - so maybe good ones are now well into the $30K's?
One has aerobody though!
11-04-2018, 12:07 AM
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91 sold in August. Check out the driving video in the listing.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...t-corvette-14/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...t-corvette-14/
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