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GM isnt reaching the edge on performance with the C7, that's some bullshit that journalists made up. The C7 zr1 already outperforms all the midengine cara, the only car faster is a 300k+ rear engine Porsche. And it uses cheater race tires to set laps, not the stock tires it rides on.
I'm a young guy that GM is supposedly targeting. Do I dream about mid engine cars? Rarely, but sure. But not mid engine vettes, I dream about the brands, not the midengine. Heck my favorite Ferrari has the engine in the front! We dream about Lambos mor because they're mid engine, but because ALL WE CAN DO IS DREAM ABOUT THEM. Nothing about a midengine car is lost worthy, it's the price, the exoticness, the prestige that makes people lost after these cars. The insane styling, the crazy sounds, the looks and stares and ridiculous paint... people dream about a life where they have so much money they dont give a ****, not just a car with an engine in the middle.
You build Corvette as a budget Lambo, people will laugh because at that level, buying a budget anything means you're not as rich.
exactly. A chevy is a chevy.
i remember when the first ford gt came out in the 00’s.
I had to laugh bc you paid 150k for a ford badge, mustang cobra engine, and an exotic body that weighed more than the corvette, mustang and viper. Oh yeah and dealers marked them up 50k
now dont get me wrong, the current ford gt is truly bad -a$$ !
Not for nothing, but the Ford GT is an awful example to bring up. Have you looked at what 05-06 GTs are capable of, and how much they sell for these days? There is no other modern car that has APPRECIATED in value like that car has. If you bought one for 50k over list you could get 2x that back today.
Edit: And to add another point about comparing any modern car to a car built before the 90's - you do realize that the engineering profession has advanced since the introduction of those cars right? I'm not saying that there won't be first year bugs - but do you really think you can compare the quality of any modern car to one from 1988? In the last 30+ years cars have gotten A LOT better!
I guess I'm just a positive guy but I think it will be epic.
Fiero as a lesson? Let's not overlook another history lesson. When the C4 came out, it beat the comparable Ferrari in every category.
I have always avoided first year models (and significantly redesigned models) and it has served me extremely well over the decades. I really don't need to deal with the recalls when I just want to enjoy the vehicle. I hope the C8 is very successful at doing what Corvettes do: provide world-class performance at 1/3 the price of the exotics. And after the embarrassing failure of the C7 Z06 cooling design, I hope that GM gets it right this time... and Jesus, please fix the C8 rear end design before it's unleashed on the public. It is so ugly.
Personally, I hope the C8 is successful enough to bring down prices where I can afford a C7 GS in about 5 years
He posted the same thread in C8 Gen talking about how the C8 will be a piece of **** because of the Fiero's short comings over 30 years ago. It a silly premise given the major advances in computer modeling and manufacturing over the last 3+ decades. Plus, if he knew anything about the C7 chassis he'd see that it's modular and my guess is the center section will be largely the same design but with new front and rear sections.
i obviously have a soft spot for c4’s. Been insulted (for having an ‘inferior car’ for years by the newer corvette owners to the point where I dont ever want to get rid of my 93. Just mod it to ‘prove a point’.
Most of the front end designs and silhouettes look pretty good. It's the rear end that needs work.
Do an image search for "C8 Corvette" and you will see the vast majority of results are front or side angles.
There is good reason for that. They can (and should) do SOOOOO much better.
The back end is heavily obscured in all camo shots... the vert will have a C3-esque vertical rear glass with buttresses and a retractable hard top. The coupe... we've seen more of that, but some thing there may be a split window detail.
The rear bumper is very dynamic and the CAD really shows what they look like. I think the spoiler is a place holder for active aero. C8 gen is getting pretty active if anyone is interested in the new car.
Most of the front end designs and silhouettes look pretty good. It's the rear end that needs work.
Do an image search for "C8 Corvette" and you will see the vast majority of results are front or side angles.
There is good reason for that. They can (and should) do SOOOOO much better.
It's hard to say GM can't build a mid engine car. They built 1 production the Fiero and it was a Pontiac.GM management being at constant thorn in Pontiac's side or visa versa. Chevrolet built two ME sports cars the Corvair Monza GT and Aerovette, neither would go to production. The Monza GT would have hurt Corvette sales, The C4 was developed instead of sending Aerovette to production. Pontiac fought and got the ME4, GM did not want it compete with the Corvette. Pontiac developed the SD4 nope, a 200 hp 3.0 ohc v6 nope. GM wouldn't even let Pontiac build the engine. GM gave them the 2.8l gen I not the better gen II or 3.4l. The enthusiasts would install the drivetrain GM would not allow to be factory installed.
The C8 will have GM management and dedicated team to insure the car lives up to expectations. If the car fails it will be from too much tech causing QA problems.
it appears that the future of the Corvette is rear engine. just like the Harley Davidson purist complained when they went to water cooled heads. the Vette purest still want a front engine car.
Looks like GM hopes we will get used to it since the front engine Vette is no more.
I think most people will love it, because it's completely new and everyone is into that today. Witness the Tesla and the buckets of saliva drooled over it?
Probably not much of a gamble for GM.. But, if people don't, GM has invested a ton..
I think most people will love it, because it's completely new and everyone is into that today. Witness the Tesla and the buckets of saliva drooled over it?
Probably not much of a gamble for GM.. But, if people don't, GM has invested a ton..
I agree overall. The C8 will either be successful, or the end of the Corvette as a product.
after riding in a Tesla sedan and seeing how many cramped, expensive modern supercars it beats in everyday usable acceleration - I think the gas sportscar for the weekend driver is done.
sure there is a market for road racing corner carvers, but thats not most people.
so this being mid engine isnt leaps and bounds technology.
front motor it was already 50/50 weight distribution
04-16-2019, 12:15 PM
