10-4. I just cut 5 trees this fall on my little .5 acre property. Sucked. I liked the trees for shade, privacy and 'woodsy feel'. But they were standing dead...a fire hazard and eventually, a hazard to my house, so they had to go.

The pic I posted above looks very much like the Uinta Wasatch Cache National forest, which is just to the east of Park City.

 

I now have a couple widow makers at the back. However, they have poison ivy vines on them that are 2" in diameter. I am not going to cut into those with a chain saw. The wind can bring them down this winter. We lost the main shade tree close to the house. It was 2 foot in diameter. The neighbor has several that size dead. At a place where I go hunting, an entire block of forest is dead.

 

No one held a metal object to your head (or maybe they did and inserted it in there....) to respond. Choose not to read or respond to this one....your choice!

 

Yes, exotic invasive species are a big problem. Here is B.C Canada all the trees in the south where I live are fine but go north and east a few hundred miles and the infamous pine beetle has killed huge sections of forest, only way up north is safe where it gets below -30C for extended periods. In the context of climate change I imagine losing huge sections of productive boreal forest has not helped. Although it may contribute to climate change via lost carbon sink, I would more blame the problem on global trade. Somthing to be said for buying local when possible!

 

typical liberal reaction. you say something factual and they respond with an attack. the truth is no one made you read it. you are the one who got offended and needed their safe space.

 

CFF damn that is beautiful. Global IDK. Probably....so may more millioons of people 1 way or another it puts off heat
am I going to let someone tell me what to driveno. That swhen I buy 2 acres and takea brand new frame off and beat the chit out of it.
We are only here once. Stats mean nothing to me.

 

In the 70s they said we'd all be ice-cubes by now because of an impending ice age. Then they switched to global warming. Now they just call it climate change... LOL

So which is it, Al Gore?

 

Your lucky there's not a dislike button in this forum!

 

^^Lame. ^^

 

Fact of the matter is, the manufacturing facilities creating all the components needed for new cars, plus the mining, and disposal of waste far exceeds that of keeping an older car on the road. If big business and environmentalists actualky worked together instead of by profits, we wouldnt be in this mess in the first place. Its always profit first.

 

Confiscation ultimately forced surrender is the goal. Wake up... demented Biden and the left hate America. They are using your money to dick you up the a....

 

Fox News BS meant to rile up the right. It will never happen. I'll give up my Vette when I cant get in and out of it.

This thread should be in Off Topic

 

Our politically correct leaders and the liberal media have lost their minds. Delusional narratives, false victimhood and an obsessive agenda of tyranny and comformity to get rid of free speech and individual rights... they're under some sort of demonic spell, pretty disturbing to watch. "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn." Proverbs 29:2

 

A big part of the problem is so much is driven by emotion and even hysteria, instead of facts. And thus a logical analysis is impossible because some points of view are suppressed. I doubt you will find too many people who DON'T believe in man-made climate change who are being given an open hearing for consideration. Their opinions are dismissed as "disinformation" and contrary to "proven science" which is anything BUT.

Al Gore's movie was made in 2006. Much of what it espoused has been disproven - not by people on the right, but by nature itself. In 2009 he said the North Pole would not have any ice cover by 2013 - that didn't happen. Various scientists have been predicting alarming rises in ocean levels for many years - it has not happened, (They are rising very slightly, as they have been for a long time.) There are other things which MEASURABLY are not as predicted, which should allow for re-examination of the premises. But anyone adding up these things and disagreeing with the "global warming crisis" is silenced, shunned and dismissed.

We are being asked to change what we drive, and how we live, to "save the planet" and "protect mother earth". Yet while we are being forced to change, nations like India, China and others are building MORE coal plants, burning MORE oil, and NOT using the latest technology to reduce emissions that are already in use here. Since it's all the same world, THEIR pollution affects US. And the US has ALREADY drastically reduced our output of pollution. Why are WE willing to sacrifice for THEIR benefit?

It will be a long time, if ever, before the Environmental Police will pull up and load your Vette on a trailer for crushing. What they WILL do is reverse our energy independence, so we have to buy from other nations. And pile additional taxes on gasoline to make driving them more expensive. Oh look - they are ALREADY doing those! They will continue to either financially punish those who would drive internal combustion, or make parts and supplies impossible to obtain until we have no way to enjoy them.

It's a solution in search of a problem. And while we DO have a politics section, politics is a very real threat to the C-4 and every other gas-powered vehicle. Those who blindly ignore the signs that there is NOT a man-made crisis threatening our lives, and those who ignore how our ability to say "I disagree" is being eliminated, and those who ignore the impossibility of charging an entire nation of EV's, are a very real threat to our continued enjoyment of our cars.

Denying reality does not change reality.

 

I think its more of regular people saying that HOW people are saying "I disagree", is disagreeable. Normal human behavior. Not political. There are or were about 12 active posters on this thread. I hope they made their vote count. Fact is, progress will move on. Technology will move on. USA is not an agricultural society. I do think there are a lot of people feeling left behind. Its the human struggle. Always has been, probably always will be. All I am hearing is it would be better to have no governing principles than have any if that principle is interested in supporting environmental justice, and is at the same time easing change and transition with proposed incentives for those who are of a mind to "progress".

 

Resurrecting a two year old thread just shows the changing landscape in electric vehicles. I'm eventually going to be looking at an engine rebuild in my 85. But I'm now looking to see if electric repowering would be a viable option for keeping my C4 driving, while the price of gas skyrockets. As I understand it, someone now makes an electric crate motor that is a bolt-in to existing SBC bellhousing and engine mounts. By the time I need it, hopefully it will be affordable. I'm a retired electrician and this stuff is second nature to me, so I'm hoping to build a working car that can be a blueprint for other vehicles. Good business opportunity, IMHO.

 

I'm reminded of an old article written in a newspaper in 1896 about the horseless carriage and the ruination of the rural farms, and it occurred to me, with the exception of a few less eloquent slang words, the argument has been fairly consistent for decades, even millennium's. There are far more things that unite us, than divide us, There are those who do profit from dividing a population of people, The intention is as clear as crystal, Those who would divide us, are not interested in public service for the good of all its citizenry, only to enough of it to cause a stir, or a buzz, This behavior isn't new, its as old as the hills themselves.

Cheers

 

Funny thing is when the Dumocrats are in control the earth is coming to an end, when the Repubs are in control we dig more easily discovered oil and the price of gas goes down and the earth keeps on chugging along.
If your in California you want coal production to stop no matter if every person from Illinois to Virginia lose their jobs, you don't care and we in turn would like to see California break off into the ocean.
Im going to run my furnace as warm as I want, air conditioner as cold as I want and drive gas guzzlers every day and don't care 1 second about a climate I can't control by me suffering wrapped in a blanket sitting in a dark cave to save a ice glacier in the North pole.
And don't get me started on the stupid brainwashing "recycling" to make you feel good like its a hobby!

 

I didn't vote for Chuck the ****. My President told me not to and he was 100% right

 

Mobandy converted his LTx car to electric years ago., couldnt make power and pass smog anymore

They have other ways of forcing them off the road
First they had cash for clunkers (this is in Ca btw)
Tightening smog limits to where a stock 70s or 80s car can barely pass
Exhaust db laws so tight a stock Fiat cannot pass, fine can be up to 1000 bux
No smog stuff? Impound is possible. St racing....impound and they can ask you to provide receipts for all. If you cant they may just deem them stolen, goodbye car.

Just recently a law passed in Ca where you cannot have anything other than an OEM tune on obd2 cars..nothing. No CAI mods which makes a lot of ls cars worthless
Yes its slowly happening.