But why lean? No air should make it rich like it was choked?????

 

Yeah I'm not worried about it. It's mostly covered anyway so all good I guess.

 

Sorry Greg, I meant rich and wrote lean, my mistake. Ugh! I have had a huge flooring project going on here for the last three weeks, I'm wore out, but it is done finally. What a job and strain.

 

Oh I hear you with that. Work bumped me to overnight... so I've been doing a 18:00-06:00 and it makes remembering and for that matter trying to do anything next to impossible. The only nice thing is the paycheck but I lose so many days in the middle because I just can't sleep.

 

 

When I was doing defense contracting all we worked was standard 12 hr shifts 6-6 and did that for seven years. When I would deploy to the middle east/Asia, 12s never came into play, it was always 16+ hour days, everyday with no days off for 3-4 months at a time. Talk about sucking... The pay was stellar though and can't complain about that, but the work load was horrible, not to mention getting shot at or a rocket/mortar attack thrown in for good measure. Never a dull moment in the Stan, Iraq or Kuwait.

 

Honestly, the only bad part is I'm the only one there and running the facility for that matter. If I had a co worker I wouldn't want to buy everything I see on summits site as much lol. It's hard to keep yourself entertained as it would turn out.

I did the 16s when I did construction. 14-16 hour days a lot of it just straight trenching. Never will I ever go back. That sucked and didn't pay but it did get me to where I'm at now. Also, thank you for your contract work Tom, I have a friend who did that with Honeywell years back so I appreciate what that takes to do.

 

Thanks Paul, I appreciate the comment. The worst was Afghanistan for obvious reasons, but Kuwait was a horrible gig as well. I ran two sites completely by myself and we were running missions in Iraq and I was only 15 clicks from the Iraq border at the time. What a huge challenge that was back then doing spec ops.

 

Again, thank you Tom. It is much appreciated.

Back somewhat on topic for a moment. I have no clue what's up with my ported manifold. I'll probably call my welder this week as it's been 3 months now. Curious more than anything now. And i want to get my parts on before spring so I can reach out to Rob if he's available and willing. It would be amazing to have a whole summer where I can just drive the car for once lol.

As far as the new mill, found a really nice set of rods for a really nice price so that's fun. Haven't decided if I'll do a street solid roller custom grind or if I'll just end up with a hydraulic. It all depends. But more on that coming as it comes.

 

Renegade is on. Running out of DC. WOT AFR is on the lean side, upper 13s but safe enough for the couple of test hits last night. DC is getting into the 90s in the mid 5000 RPM range. (mind you it always went up with respect to gear, this is in second, I will for sure be lean in third.) I'll probably end up increasing fuel pressure a bit more, wide open i think is set at 25 or 26 PSI right now and that brings idle to about 17. Also, MAP is dipping into the upper 80s above 4500. So bigger bore time.

I also increased base timing by a couple degrees to 12. Seemed to help with the random misfires I was seeing at part throttle. Was reading about scatter and it would seem at 8 degrees and 45 total SA at light throttle it could occasionally jump around. Not really sure but it feels and looks better per my data logs. I want to set base at 14 because it started better with the increased base.

 

Question for you all... The lower bolt hole that was previously occupied by the air pump (now my delete pulley). What are the chances I can redrill and tap the front of the renegade so that hole is inn the correct place, and not hit water? It is about a quarter inch high and passenger side from the stock intake.

 

My question is why do you have a delete pulley on an 84? I just run a shorter belt.

 

that's a very long span for just a serpentine to me. Would it be fine? Probably. But I think it looks better without the void and the belt not straight across. Just me though.

 

it’s fine I’ve been running mine for quite a few years now without issue. My belt is a metric length but it’s about 84.5”. On these forums most people run an 85” belt.

 

I know it's fine. I'm just ****.

I'm running an 83.5 with the under drive so I'd have to go smaller yet.

 

Saw that you are finally running the Renegade on your motor. I'm sure it put a grin on your face in 1st and 2nd gear. My question is why are you only running 25/26psi? I'm running 30 WOT. Had to change my BPC vs VAC table since we were running out of DC as well. You would be a SMART man if you got Rob to help you out on the tune right now. BTW...when he gets you flyin' and running well, you can thank me later for hooking you up with him. Have fun on the "Loud Pedal".

 

Well 26 was okay with the stock unit. I shouldn't have the same total demand as you but... I probably will end up bumping FP. I looked back at the log and saw a 91 on the DC in the mid 5k range so depending, it may (probably will) need it. But I've had a total of 10 minutes of seat time with it and it snowed today. Also, I have almost no DC at idle... so the lower pressure was to keep a somewhat stoich idle but with all the fueling it takes now down there I may be okay... worst case I can turn async back on.

I'm going to shoot Rob a message over on third gen once I get all the little things fixed (like my belt alignment) Don't want to go out in a car that could have anything extra come up... I have to look at how the DC is calculated but it seems to be a multiplier on the VE table because wide open VE didn't increase as proportionally as the DC suggests fueling did. But if it multiplies then it makes sense.

Just out of curiosity, how close do you think I would be to the water jacket if I redrill the front accessory bolt hole below the thermostat?

Also, it's up in the air if it's permanently staying on. It appears to still be hitting the hood (albeit less than before) but I don't know. I want to test the one I hacked up and I will always have it in the back of my mind this one could leak vacuum from the lifter valley at anytime. But for now it stays and hopefully it proves me wrong and the thicker 1205 gasket holds it together. The prior one I used was a stock style steel laminate core type and the ports are slightly smaller than a 1205, but bigger than a 1204. The blue "seal" ring actually hit the flange this time instead of sitting above it so it should be okay. Wish a 1206 would fit, that's what the head opening is sized for but the misalignment between the two would never seal.

Again, thank you for your awesome product. Sucks EMS just didn't care on the QC front. It is otherwise a 90% awesome piece for the price.

 

Just out of curiosity, how close do you think I would be to the water jacket if I redrill the front accessory bolt hole below the thermostat?

If you look at the flat area in front of the T-stat, that is about .5" thick(ish) and goes down in depth for about .75 or maybe even a tad deeper max .875". So, a .5" thickness isn't IMO a lot of material before hitting water for a bolt hole. I would be more comfortable with .75 or more for sure.

If Rob happens to come down to your area, which he may to do it in person, tell him I said hello. I have had several big projects that have been keeping me away from my car to finish things up 100% with Rob. I plan on doing more on the car soon and have some more items coming for it in shipping as well. Good luck with the tune tweak and I know you WILL be happy in the end.

 

Sound's like I'll leave it for now. Not worth hitting water.

I'll drive up to him even, he's 10 minutes or so from my aunt, about 20 from me. I'm very familiar with the area so it's fine. And I will tell him you said hello. I think, now would probably be a good time to source a dana 44... I foresee breaking the 36 quite easily now lol. Also, there may have been metal on the dipstick when I pulled it this morning to check it... So depending what tomorrows oil change brings everything might come to a halt... That 388 may come off the back burner sooner than anticipated. I am hoping it was just the way the LED was reflecting off the end of the dipstick.

If you're up for it and have the time, I may give you a call just to catch up maybe later this week or next, it's been a while and I'd love to hear all you've done since we last spoke. I've been reading up on the "blog" posts you've been leaving on the site but I know you have a lot more going on in the background too. I've been quite busy myself hence why this was done now. Work... well it sucks to say the least.

 

Well it liked the bored units. Also need to tweak the tune more now because that really messed up the IAC stuff.

I also shot Rob a message so we'll see.