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Old Feb 14, 2020 | 11:48 AM
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Hello, I have a 1986 Corvette that the speedometer is off. The faster you go the further off it gets, IE: at 30mph the speedometer shows 34 but at 65 it shows 84. I don't know if the gears have been changed or not, but i do know that the car was raced on road courses by the previous owners. Would the calibration tool i see on some sites fix this problem, or do i need a new cluster? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Charlie
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Hello, I have a 1986 Corvette that the speedometer is off. The faster you go the further off it gets, IE: at 30mph the speedometer shows 34 but at 65 it shows 84. I don't know if the gears have been changed or not, but i do know that the car was raced on road courses by the previous owners. Would the calibration tool i see on some sites fix this problem, or do i need a new cluster? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Charlie
The error you mention is an 'approximation' I'm guessing (you don't mention using GPS) and looking at the relevant percentage difference there's maybe many options for correction. A person needs to know transmission type, axle ratio and tire sizing to do any recommendations for you. Do you know any of those?

It could be corrected maybe using just drive/driven gears or maybe actually a ERA device could be less expensive and a better/less expensive option.

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I do not have that info with me, but i will collect it this weekend and get back with you. Thanks, Charlie
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I always thought that only wheel & tire height/size could change the speedometer accuracy. If nothing else works, try this online site for any instrument cluster/ gauge repair or uprade: www.taninautoelectronix.com


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I do not have that info with me, but i will collect it this weekend and get back with you. Thanks, Charlie

While you're checking take notice if the VSS is a center connection and it's color maybe. Could be black or white best I recall for an early car. It could also have numerical references on it. Look for maybe 35 - 39 or 40 - 45. It could also have maybe a connector on the outside diameter, important to know which and all information that's on it.

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Ok, i will check that out also.
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Originally Posted by ihatebarkingdogs
The 30 MPH error is a 12% error.
The 65 MPH error is a 33% error.

This is not a VSS gears or ratio problem because the error is not linear. Nor can both errors be corrected with a VSS ratio change. A calibrator will not help either, as it applies a constant correction to all speeds. I think you have a cluster problem. Seems like a component has aged and is affecting calibration. Probably an electrolytic capacitor in the oscillator circuit used as a time-base to calculate speed and rpm.
Of course I did #s and also mentioned that the OP hadn't actually confirmed that the info was anything more than an 'approximation'. He also never mentioned or corrected the comment as to how he 'checked/compared' so until the OP posts back we actually don't know..One has to start somewhere! The more info the OP returns with the easier to sort! I've always used a 5 various MPH plot confirmation from lets say 30, 40, 50 & 60 for comparisons. Should the OP maybe do a more closely compared MPH comparison plot for the post? Certainly wouldn't hurt.

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OP - I didn't see the 'spread' IHBD mentions. I saw maybe 13 (rounded) and less than 30. I had a friend that I could send on the mission five times to compare and he'd seldom return with matching info.Depending upon the accuracy of the GPS (I imagine that's your comparison device) do a drive using 4 or 5 reference points and then compare. Do it maybe a few times.

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Do you know where one could purchase the speedometer drive 39 gear for a 700r4?
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Originally Posted by RayandCheryl
Do you know where one could purchase the speedometer drive 39 gear for a 700r4?
Do you know that you have a coorrect VSS for the 39 tooth?

Try Greg @BlowerWorks for a 25513046 - that should be brown BUT you do need a correct VSS
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I do. Thanks for the info.
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Have you put taller tires on it. Factory was 16 inch This could cause it
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Originally Posted by Incorvettei
Have you put taller tires on it. Factory was 16 inch This could cause it

This has nothing to do with the #9 poster looking for information and parts!!
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I realize this is an old thread, but some of this may apply to others. This is just a thought to confirm where the OP is regarding the speedometer being off. I had an issue with my 86 when I bought it with the speedometer being off. To figure out where it was, I used a GPS unit in the car while driving to get a true speed. Set the cruise at various speeds, noted the speedometer reading along with the speed shown on the GPS. My solution won't apply to the OP as there was a Dakota Digital converter wired into the speedometer to convert the speed signal from the Tremec transmission to be compatible with the car and there's an adjustment on the converter to alter the speed signal. In my case I was able to align the speedometer to the true speed via the adjustment on the converter.
Here's a question though. I would think that if the speed shown was off due to tires and/or rear gear change, wouldn't the amount off be linear? Meaning if it's off by 4 mph at 30 then shouldn't it be off by 8 mph at 60? I think the amount of actual inaccuracy in the speedometer needs to be nailed down before a solution can be pursued.
Just some thoughts.

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Originally Posted by hcbph
Here's a question though. I would think that if the speed shown was off due to tires and/or rear gear change, wouldn't the amount off be linear? Meaning if it's off by 4 mph at 30 then shouldn't it be off by 8 mph at 60? I think the amount of actual inaccuracy in the speedometer needs to be nailed down before a solution can be pursued.
Just some thoughts.
The percentage of error will be consistant - your example isn't a rational or reasonable assumption to even present It could be assumed that you get it but there's no reason for your post.

The OP never returned with his information. It could be assumed he figured it out.

@ihatebarkingdogs once again returned to delete his comments the same day he posted so it could be assumed his information was 'speculatioon' based!

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