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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 07:09 PM
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I've been told, by more than one person, that once you start doing any kind of mods to a Vette, that you lower the value signigantly... From what I saw, when looking a couple months ago, the modded Vettes were cheaper, so I want to see what you guys think?? The dealer told me "A modded Vette is the sign of a beat Vette".. I dont know if I buy THAT totally, but there is SOME logic to it... If you're running 450 RWHP, wouldn't you tend to USE it??

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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 07:31 PM
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Default Re: Do you agree with that? (Jbaker)

I wish I could say I agree or disagree. Truth is, I think you'll find that most of us here bought their vettes to enjoy them. Re-sale means nothing to me. Mine's modded, and very well taken care of, but definately not beat on. There is a pretty thick line between "using" your power, and beating on the car. I have 430 horsepower at my disposal, and I do use it. but it's not my fault....the car begs for it!! :D
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 07:37 PM
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To each his own, everybody marches to the tune of a different drummer. Cars resale value in any case is whatever someone else is willing to pay. Some want mods, some don't. Differnet 'strokes" for different folks :cheers:


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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Do you agree with that? (bizaro1234)

Good point, I suppose it is in how you look at it... I'm talking more of what I was told then what I believe... See, I've NEVER owned a vehicle that remained stock, and yes, I've always lost my shirt when I sold it, I've enjoyed it while I had it.

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It always depends on the type of modification. Perhaps I wanted some polished ZR1 wheels and opted for the 11" in back? That should actually raise the resale price. Performance tires help resale as well. What will kill resale? Any type of modification to the body in the form of body kits, spoilers, etc. Internal engine mods (unless you don't tell them at the time of resale--but I would), irreversible mods, interior color change, things like ram air and cold air intakes, most drivetrain mods, nitrous will obliterate resale value, etc. Mods that will not hurt value are wheels and tires as mentioned above, engine appearance mods (tasteful), window tint, catback exhaust, stereo mods (as long as you don't add subwoofers and things of this sort), I would assume that most handling upgrades won't harm the value too much, and the list goes on. There's not an easy way to tell what will and won't harm resale value, just use common sense.

EDIT: I forgot to add that if there's a rollbar installed in the car, resale value goes bye bye. :seeya


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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 04:23 PM
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Default Re: Do you agree with that?

I worry about resale value about as often as gas mileage. Never.

Those concerns belong in Corvette Bizarro World (where practical, sensible, logical cars rule the earth).
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 05:32 PM
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Default Re: Do you agree with that? (Jbaker)

owning a corvette is about personal enjoyment, not always the bottom line. :yesnod:

my '85 is a piece of s**t, and im sure is almost worthless, but i like it and i mod it how i want :cheers:
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 05:44 PM
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Default Re: Do you agree with that? (cgtarga1)

I worry about resale value about as often as gas mileage. Never.

Those concerns belong in Corvette Bizarro World (where practical, sensible, logical cars rule the earth).
I guess it only matters to the guys (speaking for myself) that are planning on upgrading to a C5 when the prices for them dip after the introduction of the C6.
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Default Re: Do you agree with that? (Jbaker)

I'm concerned about the resale value of my stocks, not my Vette - that's my Bud!!!
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Well, that's what I'm thinking, long term. What if a few years from now, I want to upgrade... I'm obviously not considering it now, more like confirming rumors :)..... I'm talking wayyy down the road!!
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 06:02 PM
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Default Re: Do you agree with that? (Jbaker)

I like upgrades that enhance a vehicle.

Hurst shifter, Corsa's, better suspension...

But if your upgrades effect the overall reliabilty, then you effect the resale value.
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 06:15 PM
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Default Re: Do you agree with that? (GDP)

It always depends on the type of modification. Perhaps I wanted some polished ZR1 wheels and opted for the 11" in back? That should actually raise the resale price. Performance tires help resale as well. What will kill resale? Any type of modification to the body in the form of body kits, spoilers, etc. Internal engine mods (unless you don't tell them at the time of resale--but I would), irreversible mods, interior color change, things like ram air and cold air intakes, most drivetrain mods, nitrous will obliterate resale value, etc. Mods that will not hurt value are wheels and tires as mentioned above, engine appearance mods (tasteful), window tint, catback exhaust, stereo mods (as long as you don't add subwoofers and things of this sort), I would assume that most handling upgrades won't harm the value too much, and the list goes on. There's not an easy way to tell what will and won't harm resale value, just use common sense.

EDIT: I forgot to add that if there's a rollbar installed in the car, resale value goes bye bye. :seeya
In other words, mods that cannot be easily undone, or show signs that the car was driven hard, lower value. Mods that can be easily reversed like wheels and tires won't hurt resale and may improve it, but never by what you paid for the mod. Sounds like common sense to me. If you're worried about resale, don't F with something you can't reverse!


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Default Re: Do you agree with that? (Jbaker)

I think that this is true for any car not just vettes. The more you depart from original the smaller the set of potential buyers becomes.
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 12:34 AM
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Default Re: Do you agree with that? (bizaro1234)

To each his own, everybody marches to the tune of a different drummer. Cars resale value in any case is whatever someone else is willing to pay. Some want mods, some don't. Differnet 'strokes" for different folks :cheers:

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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 01:03 AM
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People who buy vettes as an *investment* or worry so damned much about resale just dont get it...vettes are meant to be driven and enjoyed damnit! Not to be beat or ragged...but enjoyed. My '91 has a K&N and Flowmasters....nothing major but I wouldnt heistate to mod it majorly cuz I know I will take care of it, not hurt it and Ill treat it the way a vette deserves :blueangel:


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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 11:36 AM
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Default Re: Do you agree with that? (Jbaker)

The dealer told me "A modded Vette is the sign of a beat Vette".. I dont know if I buy THAT totally, but there is SOME logic to it... If you're running 450 RWHP, wouldn't you tend to USE it??

Jeff
Not always true some daily driven vettes are stock but not maintained all that well. My car has extensive mods. but it gets parts replaced that are not bad but just show wear. If you are into buying a car to keep value instead of C4 you should consider a mid year stingray. A rare stock numbers matching car will command a higher price than one with mods. but like Mojo said different strokes for different folks. When someone proudly proclaims his car is stock to me that means he is driving a car with poor performance and it still has all the flaws that it had when built. If you enjoy driving a performance car then go for the mods. If you worry about value leave it stock.
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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i was recently offered $20,000 for my 84....if it was stock i wouldnt even get offered $10,000.00! :crazy:
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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I know now that if I were in the market for another Vette...the more good mods the better. Just my thoughts....
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 04:18 PM
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I know now that if I were in the market for another Vette...the more good mods the better. Just my thoughts....
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:iagree: I keep my car looking and running as good as I can, but I'm not concerned with resale since I'll have it for so long. I plan on getting a Z06 someday, but will probably keep my C4. If I had to buy another C4 now I'd look for one with some mods I would like to have done anyway.
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 04:52 PM
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Default Re: Do you agree with that? (Jbaker)

This is a very good question, and you have received some insightful answers.

I think it depends on the type of car, and the potential buyer. An example would be the older vettes. If you find a 67 vert with a 427/435 that is totally stock, it can cost you the price of a house. Then again, if that car has been modified in anyway, the price starts to plummet. However, most people in the market for those cars are looking for a investment, and to drive it once in a blue moon.

The person that said mods reduce the potential number of interested buyers hit it on the head. If it's stock, anyone might be interested in it. If it's been moded with increasing the HP in mind, then fewer people will be interested in it. Most people that up the HP intend on using the car for street or track racing, therefore the car might have been used hard and put up wet. Rarely will you see someone that spends thousands of dollars to up their HP, without the intent to use that added power. The only buyer that will be willing to pay more for a moded vette is someone that intended to mod it anyway, and they can then get the car without having to put that much into it.

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