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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 12:44 PM
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I have a 94 C4 changing the spark plugs and plug holes maybe stripped what's the best way to fix these
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Old Mar 6, 2021 | 01:43 PM
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I have a 94 C4 changing the spark plugs and plug holes maybe stripped
I mean....I'd confirm that they're actually stripped. For ME, that would be "step #1".

If they actually are stripped, then I'd pull the head to repair it.
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Old Mar 7, 2021 | 01:15 AM
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It is also possible to repair by retread the hole and use a helicoil or timesert without removing the head.
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It is also possible to repair by retread the hole and use a helicoil or timesert without removing the head.
I've heard of doing that w/o removing the head(s). But, just how I would be able to access some ports (#8 I had to access from below just to change the plug!) with the tool to re-thread the head and then insert the helicoil, all w/o leaving any metal filings in the chamber... I agree w/ Tom: pull the head and then you can also see if in fact the threads are stripped or was it the plug that is stripped (and will leave filings in the chamber if the head isn't removed first.

Obviously, I haven't done the helicoil on a LT1 while mounted in a C4 Vette. So FWIW!
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Exactly how many holes are stripped or think you stripped ? Did you try changing the plugs with the motor cold? Aluminum heads should be cold when removing the plugs to prevent stripping the threads. At least that is what I've read. I've done cars with over 100k and cars with half the mileage but over 10 years old and haven't had any problems. The only other precaution was I sprayed some WD40 on each plug and let them sit overnight first.

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WHY do you think they might be stripped? Are you having trouble getting them in or out?
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Originally Posted by Paul Workman
I've heard of doing that w/o removing the head(s). But, just how I would be able to access some ports (#8 I had to access from below just to change the plug!) with the tool to re-thread the head and then insert the helicoil, all w/o leaving any metal filings in the chamber... I agree w/ Tom: pull the head and then you can also see if in fact the threads are stripped or was it the plug that is stripped (and will leave filings in the chamber if the head isn't removed first
^Those points. You CAN do it on the car. I veteran could do it....but my guess is that the OP isn't a veteran.
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Originally Posted by Paul Workman
I've heard of doing that w/o removing the head(s). But, just how I would be able to access some ports (#8 I had to access from below just to change the plug!) with the tool to re-thread the head and then insert the helicoil, all w/o leaving any metal filings in the chamber... I agree w/ Tom: pull the head and then you can also see if in fact the threads are stripped or was it the plug that is stripped (and will leave filings in the chamber if the head isn't removed first.

Obviously, I haven't done the helicoil on a LT1 while mounted in a C4 Vette. So FWIW!
This is true, it is going to matter which cylinder you have to work with. I have unfortunately had to do this on a LT1 before. Was #7 cylinder. Had to use alot of dialectic grease on the tap and only go 1/8 turn at a time Took some time but the repair stuck and I didnt have any further issues from that engine for the rest of the time I owned that car.
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I have this job coming up for me so hated reading this. I have however read that the removal should be done with a cold engine.
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Anyone have a guestimate what it would cost a shop to remove the head and repair it?
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Originally Posted by Beater12
I have this job coming up for me so hated reading this. I have however read that the removal should be done with a cold engine.


My bad. That's what I get for posting too early in the morning.
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Originally Posted by rhandle
Anyone have a guestimate what it would cost a shop to remove the head and repair it?
~ 8 hours?

EDIT: Lol I just looked on Mitchell; 7.0 hours for the right head...8.0 for the left. I was pretty close!
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Back tap saved me once on my L98. Cuts threads from the inside out with a lot of finesse and patience.
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Old Mar 8, 2021 | 05:05 PM
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I second the Back tap rethreader, most of the work is a manual feel to get started properly !!!! then some mechanical help to "pull" the tap.
Has saved me time and money with personal jobs and customers. buy a good one, take your time explore that you have an appropriate amount of space. this may seem as if it is expensive however nothing like shoptime to re&re a head , a very efficient tool in one's box!!
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More than you will want to pay. There's a certain satisfaction you get by DIY, plus you become one with.
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