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Old May 6, 2024 | 10:11 PM
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Hello, I would love any and all input on this current problem. I have had my 84 vette since August of 23, bought it with the alternator putting out un-regulated voltage. I took off the high torque starter as it did not have the same terminals and meticulously figured out which wire should go where on the stock starter. Replaced the battery for a bigger CCA as the old one was done for, now the alternator and battery read 1 volt while running. I had the alternator checked and it works good, could the starter still be wired wrong?
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Where are you seeing this 1volt? Arw you checking it with a volt meter or are you seeing that on the IP?
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Hello, I would love any and all input on this current problem. I have had my 84 vette since August of 23, bought it with the alternator putting out un-regulated voltage. I took off the high torque starter as it did not have the same terminals and meticulously figured out which wire should go where on the stock starter. Replaced the battery for a bigger CCA as the old one was done for, now the alternator and battery read 1 volt while running. I had the alternator checked and it works good, could the starter still be wired wrong?
Something wrong with your meter, how you have it set, or how you have it hooked up. Car is not going to start, or run for that matter, on one volt. "I had the alternator checked and it works good," "Replaced the battery ..." What exactly is your "problem" you speak of?
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How are you checking the voltage? You should use a mult-meter set at 20 volts on the DC scale. Touch the battery terminals and you should see at least 12 volts. Start the car touch the terminals and you should see at least 14 volts, that's what your alternator is producing. Most big box stores, hardware stores and Harbor Freight sell inexpensive digital multi-meters for under $20.00 That will do all you need and you need one if you own a C4. Let us know how it goes.
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The multi meter is correctly set up, measuring off of the battery lead from the alternator that goes to the starter
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Something wrong with your meter, how you have it set, or how you have it hooked up. Car is not going to start, or run for that matter, on one volt. "I had the alternator checked and it works good," "Replaced the battery ..." What exactly is your "problem" you speak of?
Once the car starts the alternator has 1v coming out which for some reason at the battery it reads 1v
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Sorry to be a dunce but i cant see what youre doing 😁

You have your meter set to the 20VDC range and are attaching the black lead to the - terminal of the battery and the red lead to the + terminal of the battery... and when the egine is running, youre getting a reading of 1 volt. Is that what youre saying?
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The multi meter is correctly set up, measuring off of the battery lead from the alternator that goes to the starter
Attach your leads directly to the battery both with the car shut off and with it running. I'm not sure why you are trying to read from the alternator and the starter. Measure at the battery terminals with ignition off and with the car running. Doing it that way you will know the battery voltage, 12V+ and the alternator performance, 14V+. Establish that. Now you can go around the car and measure everything else.

QUOTE=Gigi_84;1607784976] I had the alternator checked and it works good, could the starter still be wired wrong?[/QUOTE] If the starter is wired wrong, I doubt it would crank the engine.

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Once the car starts the alternator has 1v coming out which for some reason at the battery it reads 1v
Dude! You still haven't told us what your problem is! The alternator checks out. You have a new battery. Apparently, the car starts and runs. What, exactly, is the issue you are dealing with? Your meter reads 1 volt? Is that the problem? Who GAF if the car operates normally?????
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You need to measure from the battery positive terminal and ground. Alternatively you can measure from the alternator positive terminal and ground.
if you measure from the battery + and alternator + you are measuring the voltage drop over the cable.
if you measure from alternator + and the starter + terminal while cranking you are measuring the voltage drop across the starter cable. If you measure voltage here without the starter engaged there is a partial short and the battery will go dead after a while.
ground is either the battery - terminal or a good connection to the frame or engine block.
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Sorry to be a dunce but i cant see what youre doing 😁

You have your meter set to the 20VDC range and are attaching the black lead to the - terminal of the battery and the red lead to the + terminal of the battery... and when the egine is running, youre getting a reading of 1 volt. Is that what youre saying?
yes that is what is happening unfortunately, once its off it goes back to 12
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Originally Posted by arbee
Dude! You still haven't told us what your problem is! The alternator checks out. You have a new battery. Apparently, the car starts and runs. What, exactly, is the issue you are dealing with? Your meter reads 1 volt? Is that the problem? Who GAF if the car operates normally?????
the battery cannot charge, especially if there is current going the wrong way which I think is where the 1v comes from, it all came from the wrong starter being put in when I got the car causing the alternator to not be regulated and a jumble of wires were put together on the starter. I sorted them out and think I have them going to the right places yet the alternator still isn't being told to work right
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Originally Posted by Talfryyn
You need to measure from the battery positive terminal and ground. Alternatively you can measure from the alternator positive terminal and ground.
if you measure from the battery + and alternator + you are measuring the voltage drop over the cable.
if you measure from alternator + and the starter + terminal while cranking you are measuring the voltage drop across the starter cable. If you measure voltage here without the starter engaged there is a partial short and the battery will go dead after a while.
ground is either the battery - terminal or a good connection to the frame or engine block.
like I said i am reading the multi meter on the right setting the right way, when checking at the alt going from batt lead to geound (itself) and at the batt just the neg and positive terminals while running and while not
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I am going to bow out of this one. The OP is a newbe, nothing in his profile and too many weird posts. I think he/she/they/them/ze/zir is just fkn with us. First post, he says he took out the high torque starter because "The terminals were not the same". WTF does that mean? Says the alternator was putting out unregulated voltage. How does he know? No explanation of any tests. The one volt claim makes no sense.
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Originally Posted by arbee
I am going to bow out of this one. The OP is a newbe, nothing in his profile and too many weird posts. I think he/she/they/them/ze/zir is just fkn with us. First post, he says he took out the high torque starter because "The terminals were not the same". WTF does that mean? Says the alternator was putting out unregulated voltage. How does he know? No explanation of any tests. The one volt claim makes no sense.
rlly not a newbie, when I got the car it had a aftermarket high torque starter with different terminals than the stock starter causing the alternator to have an improper connection making the regulator fritz out which i know as it was blowing a fuse on the wire that went to the starter which I know where it goes as I tested it for a short not to mention that before the alternator put out 22v, of course 1v at the alt and batt makes no sense bringing me here looking for help, not know it alls that can't read or or fathom that some one knows what they're doing
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What happens if you get the car started then disconnect the starter wires entirely?
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Originally Posted by 2011KLR
What happens if you get the car started then disconnect the starter wires entirely?
haven't tried that, theoretically the system wouldn't be getting power and the comp would pretty much shut down I think
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Hm. That wouldnt help much in troubleshooting. I dunno if thatd happen or not. I have read to not disconn the battery while it is running. I think that overvolts and blows out the alternator.
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