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Old Jul 24, 2025 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RacerRik
Do you have a Discount Tire store near you? I find them to be super helpful. They fix flats for free and have given me new valve stems and TPMS rebuild kits for free. They go out of their way to make customers happy even if you are not buying anything. They want to impress you so you come back and buy tires from them when you need new tires.
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We had one close but, they closed up......
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Originally Posted by RacerRik
I cannot believe no one has come into this thread saying how bubble balancing is no good. I had already put on the fire proof suit!
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This is NOT about good or bad, it is a question raised concerning the topic....Use what you like...
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Originally Posted by 1bdvet
Problem is old technology, great at the time, but not today!
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It worked ok then, so, I may give it a try.....Used to be my daily driver....
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Originally Posted by Whaleman
If you are really this worried about balance get a road force balance. Dan
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Not worried, I just thought I would give it a try......I am cool and collected
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I was asking and, dealing with the "HF" wheel balancer....Not all that critical to empty my pockets to get my wheels balanced......Thanks for the reply.


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Old Jul 24, 2025 | 08:39 AM
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Or mount an extra wheel bearing assembly on a stand and let the wheel settle with heaviest point at the bottom. Add some temporarily at the top and keep playing with it till the wheel stays stationary at any position. Motorcycle wheels use this. Of course the balancing stand is specifically used for this and has very free spinning ball bearing axle with very little drag.
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Another quick question:

What is the stock OEM SPARE tire size that came with my "88" coup?

I asked this many years ago and,,searching on the net gave me a couple of answers (T155/70D17)......

The brand I do not care about, size/cost I do...If I recall, it is a full size tire..

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Old Jul 24, 2025 | 03:42 PM
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The tire size you posted (T155/70D17) is a space saver temporary spare tire size, so not a full size tire.
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Or mount an extra wheel bearing assembly on a stand and let the wheel settle with heaviest point at the bottom. Add some temporarily at the top and keep playing with it till the wheel stays stationary at any position. Motorcycle wheels use this. Of course the balancing stand is specifically used for this and has very free spinning ball bearing axle with very little drag.
That will not work because the wheel bearing has too much friction. You would need a bearing that will rotate with as little as 1/2 Oz off balance.
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Old Jul 24, 2025 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RacerRik
The tire size you posted (T155/70D17) is a space saver temporary spare tire size, so not a full size tire.
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Thanks for the reply...I was going to drop the spare and see what gives...It is at least 12 years old so, it's gotta go...I dropped it years ago and thought it was full size because of the rear posi....

Getting ready to rain here again so, will drop it hopefully tomorrow and see what gives...The number I posted is from another post in which that was the number given,,.....
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Originally Posted by RacerRik
That will not work because the wheel bearing has too much friction. You would need a bearing that will rotate with as little as 1/2 Oz off balance.
Probably true. However, the principal could be duplicated with some rigging; perfectly center mount maybe using wheel spacers of correct dimension bolted to the wheel with a heavy bar running through the center resting on roller bearing wheels front and back as with the motorcycle wheel balancers. That would work.

Would have to sandwich the spacer plates on each side to maintain wheel perfectly vertical. That, too, would not be difficult to arrange.
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I had a tire machine and a balancer.

I had a Coats brand bubble balancer. In use it needs to have the wheel mounted face up. however if you want the weight on the back side of the wheel, simply mark where it is on the front side and position the weight straight across from it on the back side. It worked well for me for a lot of years.

I was also an engineer at an auto assembly plant. Our cars were sensitive to wheel imbalance, so we did a survey. We had many shops from all over the state balance the wheels. What we found was that most of the spin balancers were off by more than 1/4 ounce. So from our survey a bubble balancer would have been better. When there is a spin balancer in good condition and calibrated, it is better than a bubble balancer, however, most of the ones in service were not.

As a check for whatever type of balancer, after the wheel is balanced, take off the wheel and remount it 180° from its original orientation. If the wheel is balanced it should still be balanced, but if there is a problem it will show additional weights need to be added.

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Re: Spare update -

I dropped the spare about 20 min ago and found it still has some air but, not the required amount..I aired it up to just under 60psi as what it said on the sidewall...

I flipped the tire over and found a 5'' split in the sidewall...OH WELL.

Here are the numbers pulled off the tire (oh, you were correct in that, this is a small temp tire)..

T155/70D17
60psi
TPC SPEC 511
MAX LOAD AT 60PSI = 2326
3PLY CORD

Other numbers =
264315-3A3AVZZC


**WHERE WOULD I FIND A "DATE CODE" ON A TIRE SUCH AS THIS?
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Look for a 4 digit code on the sidewall - usually in a slightly raised oval. the first 2 numbers are the week and last 2 numbers are the year.

For example (0711) would be the 7th week (Feb) of 2011.
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Originally Posted by RacerRik
Look for a 4 digit code on the sidewall - usually in a slightly raised oval. the first 2 numbers are the week and last 2 numbers are the year.

For example (0711) would be the 7th week (Feb) of 2011.
Depending on the tire/wheel source the 4 digit code is likely not VALID. If it was purchased as a 'used' C4 spare assembly I'd expect a 3 digit date code with the first 2 digits the week and the 3d being the year (of a decade). 4 digit codes weren't used prior to year 2000. 468 example could be interpreted as week 46 of either 1988 or 1998. There's examples available of 3 digit codes.
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I copied all the numbers of both sides of the tire.....The car was purchased new, sold to a 2nd owner for a month, then, sold to me........I figure it came with the car when new....

I have seen a number of tires on rims posted in places but, they are mounted of rims (ebay stuff)....QUESTION, is their any other "brands" of cars" with the same 5-bolt pattern as the vette?...Doesn't really matter in that, I am only interested in the tire...I figure if someone has a late model car that they got rid of, if I find a late model car with the size tire I am looking for, chances are the tire would not be dry-totted.....
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I copied all the numbers of both sides of the tire.....The car was purchased new, sold to a 2nd owner for a month, then, sold to me........I figure it came with the car when new....

I have seen a number of tires on rims posted in places but, they are mounted of rims (ebay stuff)....QUESTION, is their any other "brands" of cars" with the same 5-bolt pattern as the vette?...Doesn't really matter in that, I am only interested in the tire...I figure if someone has a late model car that they got rid of, if I find a late model car with the size tire I am looking for, chances are the tire would not be dry-totted.....
Here is a list of 5×4.75 bolt pattern vehicles...

https://roadkillcustoms.com/wheel-bo...5x4.75-inches/
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Old Jul 27, 2025 | 09:14 AM
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Was looking at a few tires via net and had a question or two -

The spare that came out of my "88" had the tire size (in red) of::
T155/70D17
60psi
TPC SPEC 511
MAX LOAD AT 60PSI = 2326
3PLY CORD


I am seeing some that have size listed as: 10M T155/70D17 17X4. Whats' with the 110M?

*Would ALL tires manufactured in the industry/specs be as what I have listed above? OR, would the ply number, weight load, max psi be different for the application (or be altered depending on vehicle application, etc)?



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I just bought the Continental off Ebay and it was only 6 months old. Fit perfectly. Tire rack has them also. Dan
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