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I bought a set of C4 Grand Sport Replica wheels off of jegs (oe wheels brand) for my 1985 Corvette. The spacers I’m using to makeup for the offset are hub centric. The wheels have an inner diameter of 70.7mm’s and the hub bore is 70.3mm’s. Does anyone know of a place where I could get hub centric rings to fill that gap? I’ve been looking for awhile and I can’t find any. Thanks in advance.
It's not 0.4mm, it's half that: 0.2mm. And there's no way in hell anybody would make such at thing, You're getting close to foil at that thickness!
WVZR-1 is 100% correct. The hub pilot is never, ever what locates a wheel on a hub. Hubcentricity doesn't matter one bit in terms of locating the wheel. It never has and it never will. The ONLY thing that EVER locates our wheels are the tapered conical lug nuts' "zero-clearance" fit in the tapered bolt holes. That's it. Then, once those locate the wheel (as you start torquing the lug nuts), the immense clamping force supplied by the lug nuts holds the wheel in place on the hub's face with static friction. The studs don't react any wheel forces, and neither does the hub pilot. Hubcentric fitment is only done at the factory to make assembly line wheel mounting faster. That's it.
You can typically assume that wheels with conical lug nuts (American, Japanese, some German) are all lug centric and located with the typically 60 degrees lug taper. Cars with spherical lug seats, typically lug bolt cars and mostly German, are generally hub centric.
You can typically assume that wheels with conical lug nuts (American, Japanese, some German) are all lug centric and located with the typically 60 degrees lug taper. Cars with spherical lug seats, typically lug bolt cars and mostly German, are generally hub centric.
This is not accurate. Ball-seat or spherical-seat wheels and lug nuts still use the interface of the lug nut and seat to locate the wheel on the hub. Just as with the tapered conical nut and seat, a spherical combo will very precisely locate the wheel with zero-tolerance around a point in the center of the sphere (or cone). They do the exact same thing: both conical-seat and ball-seat setups are lugcentric. You could mill the hub pilot off the hub entirely and the wheel will still be perfectly located by the lug nuts, whether they are conical or spherical.
There's no way a wheel bore and hub can have a tight enough tolerance to locate the wheel accurately while still allowing for easy mounting/dismounting. You could machine bores and pilots to a very tight tolerance, but then the wheel would be a PITA to mount, and the slightest bit of dirt or corrosion would make it impossible. Also, if you did try to locate the wheel that way, then you would absolutely not want a conical or spherical nut and seat, because they might end up "fighting" with each other if they were not micron-perfect, which would put a hell of a side load on the studs. In that situation, you would want a flat-seat lug nut that only applied clamping force without any lateral locating force at all. I found a good writeup on that on Facebook.