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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 11:06 AM
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I got a Red 84 that was repainted by previous owner. Not sure about if there was a clear coat applied but assuming it was from the problem I have. My hood is turning whitish. From a previous poster I think it might be from the clear coat. I usually apply a red turtle wax to it and it looks great but I was wondering if I got a professional buff job, would they be able to get rid of it. Dont really want to repaint. Is there a fix for this? Thanks guys.
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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 11:20 AM
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my silver 85 is starting to have the same problem on the hood. there was a long post a while ago about what can or can't be done. Apparently, if I understand it correctly, the clear coat is what makes the paint shiny...the actual color is dull...there were a number of options in that post too. re-clearcoating, re-painting...it all comes down to how much you want to spend and what you want the final result to look like.

I'm curious about that red wax you use...who makes it..and do they make it in silver?? Eventually, I need to get a repaint as well...mine is the origianl stuff and the nose/tail/hatch hinge cover/hood are starting to go....thats what this blazing Florida sun will do to your car. :mad
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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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They do make a silver, click the link below and click the SKU button. I really dont wanna spend anything on the car other than a buffing. Repaint or a new clear coat arent really an option for me. The red wax really makes it look good and I guess Ill just stick with that for now. Thanks for the quick reply
http://www.perfectcar.net/prod_detai...cat=264&show=0
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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 01:07 PM
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The problem with "clear coats" is they act like a window in a car. They let UV rays in but not out. Once the UV rays go thru the glass the interior of the car changes the UV rays and they then see the windows as opaque and are trapped inside of the car. Thats why the car heats up inside.

Clear coats do the samething. Trapping in UV ray and thus burning the clear coat from the inside out.

Clear coats came about as "Show finishes" the public then wanted a show fininsh on production cars. A mistake as those who live in high UV areas will get thier paint ruined rather quickly.

Cover your car, keep it indoors, thats about all you can. Red is the worst color to keep up.
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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 09:58 PM
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Do you know why red is the worst color for not fading?

Each color that you mix consists of anywhere from 2 to 7 toners of different colors to make up that color. One of the few exceptions is for instance, silver, where most silvers require 2 different silver toners and that is it. Red fades out because there are between 3 and 5 toners that are used to make red... one of them being red itself.

Red uses a manmade pigment and doesn't hold up very well. In fact, up until the last 10 years, manufacturers never use to even clearcoat red for that reason. (among others) It has only been the last 10 years or so that they are including clearcoat on red.

The problem with fading is that usually the hood gets it first. Unfortunately not only do you have the sun beating down on all three top surfaces, you've got the heat from the engine pushing upwards also. The roof usually gets it next since interiors get extremely hot and bake the roof from the inside also and then comes the decklid (which obviously fades later..)

Many times red cars don't even have clearcoat (Honda products are notorious for this, I'm sure you've all seen the pink civics around) Wetsanding and buffing will help if not to severly faded but only temporarily. If the paint has deteriorated, polishing is only a temporary fix.

Using a good quality basecoat and clearcoat (urethane) and taking car by washing, waxing and keeping it out of the sun is the only way to prolong your beautiful paint job.

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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 02:26 AM
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:iagree: i haven't had any problems with the clear doing that on my silver beige 86, but my black targa top is another story :crazy:
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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 04:06 PM
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:iagree: i haven't had any problems with the clear doing that on my silver beige 86, but my black targa top is another story :crazy:
Dark colors are affected earlier than lite colors. Also if the vehicle is garaged much of the time or not.


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