http://www.C4dhr.com
Stay away from this site. After 2 emails 1 snail mail I've got no replies.
Looks like they keep the $25 I sent thru Paypal. Wrote Paypal and the Domain but won't hold my breath.
This is the info I got from the Domain so I guess this is the crook.

The site is still up there and if a CF Member sends money it's lost.
I didn't lose that much.but if they won't return $25 they sure wont return a larger amount.

 

Isn't this a dupe from last week?? If not, your the second person to be scammed by them in the last week or so...

:mad

 

Thanks for the one up!!!
:rolleyes:

 

Interesting... his domain expires in a few days. Did you talk with him any before sending the paypal money? Maybe its an old site he gave up o n?

 

Good News just received this email from Paypal.

Our investigation has determined that the seller is at fault, and as a
result we have attempted to recover your funds.
$24.90 USD has been credited to your account. This is the maximum amount we
were able to recover. Please allow up to 5 days for this adjustment to be
reflected in your account

I had just given up hope.

 

here is the contact info for the domain owner

Domain Name.......... c4dhr.com
Creation Date........ 2003-02-21
Registration Date.... 2003-02-21
Expiry Date.......... 2004-02-21
Organisation Name.... Caroline Clark
Organisation Address. 137 Harnesworth Cr.
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Waterdown
Organisation Address. L0R 2H6
Organisation Address. Ontario
Organisation Address. CANADA

Admin Name........... Caroline Clark
Admin Address........ 137 Harnesworth Cr.
Admin Address........
Admin Address........ Waterdown
Admin Address........ L0R 2H6
Admin Address........ Ontario
Admin Address........ CANADA
Admin Email.......... peter.mercado@sympatico.ca
Admin Phone.......... +1.9056908987
Admin Fax...........

 

Just did a quick mapblast.com check, and it's about 4 1/2 hour drive from me.

http://www.mapblast.com/(4zzlgujnks4...outeUnit=Miles

 

Thanks for all the help. The suggestion to write Paypal was somrthing I hadn't thought of and they refunded the money. I hope by posting this that no one else will use the site and maybe it will be shut down.

 

his domain expires on the 21st of this month. unless he acts fast, his site wil be gone with in a week or two

 

Red, I should have been a good guy and spoke up befor....I'm about 10 minitues away from there...I'm also pretty sure that it is a residentual address...Anyway I'm close to there location and would be more than happy to help out a forum member if i can. I looks like pay pal has done there thing but let me know if a visit to them will help!

Dave

 

glad to hear you got the majority of your money back. so is there any "real" companies out there that sells chrome door handle's?

 

I am now getting some emails from c4hdr and when this transaction is completed I'll put up an update.
A brief summary follows: I was tod the email problem was probably a problem with their email account and the regular mail was because of 911 and Canadian Security measures was why I didn't recieve a answer to my letter.
The only thing that seemed to work was my Paypal payment. I was told that
I would receive return of the payment and also the product.

 

So aren't I!! See, I called and wrote them an email telling them to bend over, and kiss their business good bye, because they were screwing the wrong group. I've gotten two emails today, here's one:
---------------------------------
Dear Mr. *****:(name preserved because it's not mine)

I have sent you 2 e-mails regarding the status of your order, and have not had a response from you. I therefore assume that there is a problem with our Hotmail account ( It could be the latest virus going around) and am sending you a response via another e-mail account.

I apologize for the delay with respect to your order.

I have contacted the Canada Post Corporation and have filed a complaint regarding the treatment of your order.

Their response is as follows:

"After September 11, for obvious security reasons, all mail going in to the United States is usually checked, which could cause a delay. "

I completely understand your dissatisfaction in this matter and as a jester of good will an in attempt to rectify this matter, we are sending you a new order via UPS with no charge. ( and will return your money to you)

It has been brought to my attention that you have been posting your dissatisfaction of this situation to other members of the Corvette Form and I completely understand your course of action given the circumstances that you find yourself exposed too.

After reviewing your posts and the posts of other members, I would like to respond with the following:

1) We have 100's of satisfied customers in the USA
2) We are not in the business of ripping anyone off or do we operate our business in a criminal capacity.
3) We cannot be responsible to the activities that affect the mail operations of our countries (Such as acts of terrorism that affect the way our countries handle the distribution of mail or any virus than affects our internet, e-mail accounts or our computers.)
4) You had the option of buying our product from one of our US distributors Corvette Central and avoiding any border crossing mail delays.
5) You had the option of contacting me by phone or my mail to explain your dissatisfaction to me, since both were listed on our website.
6) I too am a proud corvette owner and have spent considerable money on research and development in order to share new and innovative products with other corvette owners.
7) I am truly disturbed and hurt at the slanderous remarks that you made insinuating that I and my origination are criminals, consideration that my primary job is in law enforcement.

Having said this, Mr. Rickard, you are still the customer and you deserve to be treated correctly. I hope that our product is to your satisfaction and that keep your door handles looking new for years to come.

Once again I apologize for the delay in your order and the mix up as a result.

If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact me at 1-905-690-8987 or e-mail me a phone number were I can contact you.

Please feel free to post this e-mail on the Corvette Forum website or any other.

Thank-you for your understanding in this matter

Peter Mercado

Manager

The C4dhr Team
------------------------------------

And:

-------------------------------------
Mr. *********:

In an attempt to track your order, we have filed a complaint with the Canada
Post Corporation (the Canadian Mail System) in regards to you not receiving
your order.

They have sent us this explanation :

After September 11, for obvious security reasons, all mail going in to the
United States is usually checked, which causes a delay. This is according to
the Canada Post mail Corporation.

I completely understand your position regarding the delay in receiving your
product and share in your dissatisfaction. Please understand sir, that we
are not in the business of ripping anyone off and do not operate in a
criminal capacity. Our products are sold through well known companies such
as Corvette Central.

In attempt to make amends with you, we are sending you another order, via
UPS without charge.

If you wish to contact me regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to
contact me at

1-905-690-8987 or e-mail me a number where I can contact you

Sorry for the delay.

The C4dhr Team

Peter


>From: "***************>
>To: <c4dhr@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Order
>Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 12:19:51 -0600
>
>Hi,
>I ordered C4DHR and paid by paypal. I got feedback from paypal but haven't
>heard
>anything from your firm. Is the order being processed.
>
>
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So, it appears they have an excuse for the serious delay... or do they ?? :confused: I ALSO asked them to stop CC'ng me with every email that they are sending you, that I have no clue who you were, just someone on the Forum that they should have treated a little bit better. :yesnod:


[Modified by Jbaker, 6:50 PM 2/14/2004]

 

Ok what i want to know is why am i on the maling list for this guy.All i did was post public information that was attached to the domain.Why am i cc'ed to all email pertaining to this.I have not established a view or made a asumption to wrong doing.I was just posting the info that is public record.If you are reading this Peter please remove me from your email list pertaining to this subject.


[Modified by crash1mac, 5:35 PM 2/15/2004]

 

the damage is done.
hotmail or yahoo account for a buisness?
the com in .com is for "commercial".
i woulda clicked out as soon as i seen that. :rolleyes:

 

His email account is no good i replyed to his email asking to be removed from his email list.

Message from yahoo.com.
Unable to deliver message to the following address(es).

<peter.mercado@symaptico.ca>:
Sorry, I wasn't able to establish an SMTP connection. (#4.4.1)
I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long.

 

Last Summer, I ordered the door handle covers from him and received them in about 10 days or so.

 

I wrote him just for the hell of it, asking about one of his products-----NO ANSWER...............
HAVE A GREAT DAY!!!
:flag

 

Guys!
In general quality of service in Canada is much lower than in US.
:flag

 

What's funny, the ZR1 in the top left corner is a postcard, I have that postcard sitting on my desk(somewhere).