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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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Ok, who else has this?

I've noticed that my 95' LT-1 auto and my new 96' LT-4 share the following quirks
1) Stering wheel makes a "clunk" sound when it is turned past 2'oclock and 10' oclock, nothing mechanicaly wrong just makes the sound. If you try this while your parked you can hear it and feel it in the wheel.
2) When you brake at low speed or all of a sudden (i especialy get it when going forward coming out of the garage) you hear a clatter sound as if the brake caliper is loose... again, breaking is fine but its there just like on my 95'.

Anyone else experiance this on their C4??

Also for you LT-4 guys.......
Does the transmition feel VERY mechanical on these cars and a bit noisy??
I think it's cool but just wondering if thats part of our drivetrain or if I should have it checked out??
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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Don't know about your rattles and clunks, but as for the tranny on my LT4, yes - it feels very "mechanical". Some call it "notchy." I drove my dad's Rustang GT, and its tranny is much softer. Porsche 911 Turbo feels like butter - it's a thing of beauty... I wouldn't worry about it.

As for the other sounds, I'd get 'em checked out. Even if your steering/brakes work fine, something's wrong.
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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There's another thread about steering wheel "clicks" on the forum. Seems to be a common, benign noise.
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by HC96LT4
...Stering wheel makes a "clunk" sound when it is turned past 2'oclock and 10' oclock, nothing mechanicaly wrong just makes the sound. If you try this while your parked you can hear it and feel it in the wheel...
Same thing was happening with my 96 LT1. I noticed it about a week after purchasing the car last summer, brought it in and the dealer installed a rebuilt steering column. There's a TSB (or whatever the acronym is) on this with a posible fix and they tried that first but it didn't work hence the rebuilt column. I'll try to dig up my info on it...

EDIT: Scroll down to #169. I think that might have been it:
http://www.alldata.com/TSB/10/961006GM.html

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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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Haven't noticed a clunk in the steering at those positions.

On the noise you hear first motion after a start-up, your probably hearing the ASR energizing. Generally, its notice on the first forward motion but if you back out quickly it will energize then.
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 06:36 PM
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I have a '96 Collector's Edition LT-4 and I'm afraid that my Vette doesn't share the sounds that you describe.
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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I also have a 96 CE LT-4 and my transmission feels very mechanical and is somewhat noisy mostly going into 1st gear or reverse. I would get the brakes checked out, though. I took my car in for a clicking noise in the rear end that ended up being a problem with the sway bar but they said that back brakes were noisy also and so they took them off, cleaned, lubed, and reinstalled the hardware. I haven't noticed any noise in the steering on my car.
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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I have a 91' coupe and my steering wheel doesn't have a clunk when it gets turned, nor do my brakes rattle. I think you forgot 1 quirk - no matter what year C4 it is, it is still going to ride like a lowered gocart with concrete wheels.
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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Gonna hit the road today and actualy drive. Only put 10 miles on the car since I picked it up!!! Will report back later
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 12:47 PM
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the clatter/clunk when you brake could be a loose caliper. shake the calipers by hand and see if they will move. if they move more than a smidge, it's probably either a worn spring clip, worn pin, or worn pads were it contacts the pin, in that order. (this applies to the fronts only.)
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Originally Posted by tempest
the clatter/clunk when you brake could be a loose caliper. shake the calipers by hand and see if they will move. if they move more than a smidge, it's probably either a worn spring clip, worn pin, or worn pads were it contacts the pin, in that order. (this applies to the fronts only.)

You hit it right on the money!!!!!!!!!

After my drive today got a neighbor (who's a ford guy!) involved and he watched the tire as I duplicated the sound and he said the caliper was moving! I got out and tried to move it by hand and sure enough, bout a 1/4" of play. Anyone got part #'s for me?
Sounds like an easy fix, the pads are new, gotta love the ZR-1 style rims for visual access to the caliper and rotor!!!!!!!!
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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i've noticed the exact same steering "click" on my wife's 98 grand prix for about 60k miles now.
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 11:33 PM
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glad you found the problem!

the fix is one of the rare "less than 1/2 hour" kind.

i can get you the part number on monday if no one else has responded by then.
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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my lt4 doesnt have any clunks. the trans does feel notchy, and does have a whine in first gear. think its the nature of the beast. need to change the gear oil also, might cure it. the notchy part that is. think these things whine in first gear out of the box.
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Originally Posted by HC96LT4
Ok, who else has this?


2) When you brake at low speed or all of a sudden (i especialy get it when going forward coming out of the garage) you hear a clatter sound as if the brake caliper is loose... again, breaking is fine but its there just like on my 95'.

Anyone else experiance this on their C4??
If the brake noise is a whirring noise and happens at 4mph when you first start out after starting the car, it is the ABS calibrating it self.

I have also had it do it when stopping and one of the tires hits a patch of sand or dirt.

You can feel a fluctuation in the pedal when it calibrates it self.

Hope this helps.

Mike.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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HC96LT4, the part number for the clip is 10132842.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by FNG
my lt4 doesnt have any clunks. the trans does feel notchy, and does have a whine in first gear. think its the nature of the beast. need to change the gear oil also, might cure it. the notchy part that is. think these things whine in first gear out of the box.


Is there anything different about the LT4 ZF6's, or is it just something with the engine that makes it that noisy? I know my alum flywheel isn't helping things in the least, but it is still seriously noisy.

My car also needs the front caliper clips, it sounds like a wheel is about to fall off everytime I hit a bump.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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Is there anything different about the LT4 ZF6's, or is it just something with the engine that makes it that noisy? I know my alum flywheel isn't helping things in the least, but it is still seriously noisy.
many have noted that the ZF6 is noisy in general. there were some changes made to the ZF6 in 93 or 94 to quiet things down a bit, but still noisy nonetheless. incidentally these changes lowered the torque capacity of the tranny, but it was well within stock torque limits.

when i first got my 92 i was surprised to be able to hear the transmission output shaft spin when i had it in neutral.
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I haven't heard the noises from the brakes in my car (1993). The ZF has been very quiest IMHO. But then again my last car was a 1971 Z28. This car is quiest compared to that. This shifter is pretty notchy compared to the C5. I think the C4 (all the electronics aside) is the last true american "muscle" car. I'd love to have the LT4.
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I have a 1996 and the steering does not make any noise or clicks ever.
Also the ABS does a test, after the start and when you go foreward. The trans also seems to me to run just fine, sorry.
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