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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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That's what Kelly Blue Book (www.kbb.com) says my 87 Z51 is worth.

When did my $38,000 car become worth less than my Dodge pickup?
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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The May, 2004 Vette magazine pricing guide lists your '87 Vette by condition as:
$13k - Excellent
$10k - Good
$8k - Average

If Kelly says it would only bring $4k on a trade in you would be better off selling it outright.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 10:58 PM
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I know what you saying....Our C4's are worth more rotting in our garages than on the street to sell. If your car is in good shape and runs good, hold on to it....You'll be glad you did.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 10:59 PM
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I heard it's a buyers market right now, but thats ridiculous.
Well, dont worry, unless your wanting to sell. Just hang on to it and take care of it and it'll be worth more some day. Just look at the guys who hung on to the 52-69's back when they had book values of two or three hundred bucks. They're grinning now.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by skateparkdave
I heard it's a buyers market right now, but thats ridiculous.
Well, dont worry, unless your wanting to sell. Just hang on to it and take care of it and it'll be worth more some day. Just look at the guys who hung on to the 52-69's back when they had book values of two or three hundred bucks. They're grinning now.
yea, the new c6 is screwing everything up value wise. good for buyers but not for sellers. most c5 owners are getting a c6 so alot of c5s are for sale. supply and demand. there are more c5s for sale then buyers which makes them cheaper. then the c4 owners are selling their c4s to get the cheaper c5s. so now there are alot of c4s for sale which then made the value of the c4s drop. (confusing) i think another year or so and all the values will rise again .
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ynk1121
i think another year or so and all the values will rise again .
It's going to be more than a year. The prices of C4's has steadily been dropping just like the C3's did.

The C3's are finally on the upswing. When the C7 comes out, our cars will be on the rise and the C5 guys will be in our shoes.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ynk1121
yea, the new c6 is screwing everything up value wise. good for buyers but not for sellers. most c5 owners are getting a c6 so alot of c5s are for sale. supply and demand. there are more c5s for sale then buyers which makes them cheaper. then the c4 owners are selling their c4s to get the cheaper c5s. so now there are alot of c4s for sale which then made the value of the c4s drop. (confusing) i think another year or so and all the values will rise again .


Yep, and i hope that the c5 value just drops through the floor so i can buy one of those too!
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 65Z01
The May, 2004 Vette magazine pricing guide lists your '87 Vette by condition as:
$13k - Excellent
$10k - Good
$8k - Average

If Kelly says it would only bring $4k on a trade in you would be better off selling it outright.
No, this is their private sale value. Apparently Vette magazine has a whole different set of values than the used car market guides.

What really gets me is we just bought a 1970 mustang (that needs a total resto) for $4k. And, last time I checked, parts for Corvettes aren't any cheaper (I'm still payin' a quarter of my car's value for an aftermarket intake).

All I can say is: WTF?

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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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It's God's way of telling you not to sell it....
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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I struggled in selling my 96 because all the "deals" on the C5 came out. But I held my guns and decided to keep it. After all it is my first Corvette after all these years. And it is almost paid for.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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Only cheap azzes use Kelly Blue book when purchasing a car.
KBB is only a guideline, not an absolute.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by jabez
Only cheap azzes use Kelly Blue book when purchasing a car.
KBB is only a guideline, not an absolute.
It is when the dealer is using it to evaluate your car. KBB is in business for the auto dealers. & it only works in their favor. I took my `01 S-10 to trade at Reedman`s ( one of the country`s largest Chevy dealers) on a new pickup. the dealer said $3700.00. I said " KBB says its worth $5600 in its condition. They said ( smiling ) " go sell it to KBB. :mad
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by loiq
No, this is their private sale value. Apparently Vette magazine has a whole different set of values than the used car market guides.

What really gets me is we just bought a 1970 mustang (that needs a total resto) for $4k. And, last time I checked, parts for Corvettes aren't any cheaper (I'm still payin' a quarter of my car's value for an aftermarket intake).

All I can say is: WTF?
Is that trade in value or private party value?
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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Vehicles of our vintage are generally sold at auction - New car dealers rely on lease returns for the vast majority of their used car inventory and very seldom will you find a used car on a new dealer lot older than 5 years. Used car specialists will buy the average, older car and hope to sell it for a few grand over their winning bid and supposedly, that's where KBB gets it pricing. Astute buyers can attend a couple of auctions and either buy there, or at least get an idea of the what the vehicle they're interested in goes for and negotiate accordingly.

The C5 right now, relative to my $35,000 sticker, is a bargain with advertised discounts ranging for 10 to 12K. The C6 has relatively few (at least for me) "gee whiz I just gotta have it" things going for it. The Boomers that bought the C5 have had their Vette experience, and I don't see them gravitating towards a C6. I think that after Chevy sells it to those who always have to be the first, there will be some tough sledding ahead for the Vette. The next generation just doesn't appear interested.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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KBB has been very low on Corvette values for a long time, it's the last place I usually look. Pay no attention.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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Run your 87 through NADA it is more along the lines of what's it's worth.......KBB is what the dealers show you when you're doing a trade.

usually kbb puts the car a good bit below what it's really worth.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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The vette magz are probably closer too what Vettes are worth on the street in a given condition. Not counting for certain markets. The KBB and such are generic numbers for annonomous cars. I usually check out my local auto trader and check out Vettes of similar quality. What the book say and what people are really selling them for could be way apart.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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Depreciation is an evil mistress. We love her when we are buying but hate her when we are selling. My 99 Saab 95 is worth under $9K! I'll keep it. One of these days I'm going to buy a '96 Vette. If the trend continues, I'll have enough money to do some performance mods!
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 12:33 AM
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No NO no!
KBB is way overpriced, that car should only be worth 2k!

But I'll tell you what, I'll help you out and give you 2.5 for it!
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 01:15 AM
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As it has been said above, a car is worth what someone is willing to sell it and buy it for. While the soft market may be painful for the person owning a vette, it also opens up the opportunity for others to get a vette who otherwise not be able to, such as myself

A couple of months ago I was able to get a 86 Z51 4+3 with 112K miles for $3000. It wasn't in the greatest of shape, but it was fun fun fun to drive. So fun in fact, that I sold it and got a 90 Z51 6 speed with 98k miles in much better shape with a beautiful interior for $4600. It needed a clutch and some injector work, but the end result is I have a great vette for relatively little money.
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