Car Wash Damage: Update
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Burning Brakes
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From: Washington District of Columbia
Car Wash Damage: Update
I received an ESTIMATE for what appears to be a rather small repair —
about like I said, a 3 x 5 inch area on the right-rear quarter panel, a
scratch of about 10" and another tear of about 1" in diameter. All within
a space of 15 to 20 inches. The ESTIMATE was for $1358.76. This includes: Body Labor of 19 hrs. @ $42.00 per — Paint Labor of 7.6 hrs.
@ $42.00 per and Paint Supplies of 7.6 hrs. @ $22.00 per. DO ANYONE
OF YOU SEE THIS AS BEING A FAIR ESTIMATE? THANKS.
about like I said, a 3 x 5 inch area on the right-rear quarter panel, a
scratch of about 10" and another tear of about 1" in diameter. All within
a space of 15 to 20 inches. The ESTIMATE was for $1358.76. This includes: Body Labor of 19 hrs. @ $42.00 per — Paint Labor of 7.6 hrs.
@ $42.00 per and Paint Supplies of 7.6 hrs. @ $22.00 per. DO ANYONE
OF YOU SEE THIS AS BEING A FAIR ESTIMATE? THANKS.
Race Director
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From: Behind The Redwood Curtain, The State of Jefferson
I had the rear quater smaked and cracked in a couple of places, not very big and a pretty good scratch. it came to around $1200 I think, the entire rear was painted to insure a match.
Drifting
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From: Tracy CA
Are you, or your insurance, paying, or is the car-wash-idiot paying.
Matching paint color on two materials (fiberglass fenders and whatever the tail-bumper-thing is made out of) is difficult. Is the whole car getting fresh paint?
Matching paint color on two materials (fiberglass fenders and whatever the tail-bumper-thing is made out of) is difficult. Is the whole car getting fresh paint?
Melting Slicks
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From: alaska
This includes: Body Labor of 19 hrs. @ $42.00 per — Paint Labor of 7.6 hrs.
@ $42.00 per and Paint Supplies of 7.6 hrs. @ $22.00 per.
estimate sounds about right to me but thats about a bizarre way to break the labor cost down.
what is it? 19 hrs of repair and prep
7.6 hrs of painting and 7.6 hrs of mixing paint?
i dunno,doesnt seem over priced but if its gonna take him 34.2 hrs to fix a quarter panel and only get 13 hundred bucks for it including materials i doubt he will be in buiseness long.
maybe hes counting cure time or something.just looks weird to me,but the figure sounds bout right.
just had a door fixed on a 99 gm p.u. at work that ran 1500 bucks and it was just a white work truck.nothin nice.
@ $42.00 per and Paint Supplies of 7.6 hrs. @ $22.00 per.
estimate sounds about right to me but thats about a bizarre way to break the labor cost down.
what is it? 19 hrs of repair and prep
7.6 hrs of painting and 7.6 hrs of mixing paint?
i dunno,doesnt seem over priced but if its gonna take him 34.2 hrs to fix a quarter panel and only get 13 hundred bucks for it including materials i doubt he will be in buiseness long.
maybe hes counting cure time or something.just looks weird to me,but the figure sounds bout right.
just had a door fixed on a 99 gm p.u. at work that ran 1500 bucks and it was just a white work truck.nothin nice.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Lufkin Texas
St. Jude Donor '05-'06
Originally Posted by mitymek
This includes: Body Labor of 19 hrs. @ $42.00 per — Paint Labor of 7.6 hrs.
@ $42.00 per and Paint Supplies of 7.6 hrs. @ $22.00 per.
estimate sounds about right to me but thats about a bizarre way to break the labor cost down.
what is it? 19 hrs of repair and prep
7.6 hrs of painting and 7.6 hrs of mixing paint?
i dunno,doesnt seem over priced but if its gonna take him 34.2 hrs to fix a quarter panel and only get 13 hundred bucks for it including materials i doubt he will be in buiseness long.
maybe hes counting cure time or something.just looks weird to me,but the figure sounds bout right.
just had a door fixed on a 99 gm p.u. at work that ran 1500 bucks and it was just a white work truck.nothin nice.
@ $42.00 per and Paint Supplies of 7.6 hrs. @ $22.00 per.
estimate sounds about right to me but thats about a bizarre way to break the labor cost down.
what is it? 19 hrs of repair and prep
7.6 hrs of painting and 7.6 hrs of mixing paint?
i dunno,doesnt seem over priced but if its gonna take him 34.2 hrs to fix a quarter panel and only get 13 hundred bucks for it including materials i doubt he will be in buiseness long.
maybe hes counting cure time or something.just looks weird to me,but the figure sounds bout right.
just had a door fixed on a 99 gm p.u. at work that ran 1500 bucks and it was just a white work truck.nothin nice.
Sounds about right but it is broken down in an odd way.
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Burning Brakes
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From: Washington District of Columbia
Wash Damage Estimate
Originally Posted by EPiC Vette
Are you, or your insurance, paying, or is the car-wash-idiot paying.
Matching paint color on two materials (fiberglass fenders and whatever the tail-bumper-thing is made out of) is difficult. Is the whole car getting fresh paint?
Matching paint color on two materials (fiberglass fenders and whatever the tail-bumper-thing is made out of) is difficult. Is the whole car getting fresh paint?
the ESTIMATE though.??
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Burning Brakes
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From: Washington District of Columbia
Car Wash Estimate
Originally Posted by Perfusion
I have never heard of 42.00 an hour for labor... Wherever they're finding a shop with those rates, I wanna know so I can go there from now on.
my servicing done. (SPORTS CHEVROLET in Silver Spring, MD)
Drifting
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From: Tracy CA
Originally Posted by Donne Trav
The car wash is supposedly settling this matter. They have yet to see
the ESTIMATE though.??
the ESTIMATE though.??
Also, it gives you the chance to check out other body shops in the area. See the guys that're gonna be working on your baby, see some other "works in progress".
IMO... if he's gonna be taking the blame and footing the bill, have it done not only correctly, but to your satisfaction.
Safety Car
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From: Northern California
Any panel that even gets a little chip will have to be re painted and clear coated as well as any adjacent panels will have to be blended onto and also re clear coated.
Blending the paint from the damaged area onto the original paint results in a superior color matched repair.
Also, I didn't see any time listed for color matching the paint. Even if the shop orders the correct color or has a paint store color match it, the color is still going to be off and needs to be color matched by the painter to get it as close of a match for a good blend.
I would go to another body shop and ask them about color matching and blending. If they don't know how to color match or blend, go to another shop. These are standard skills in any respectable body shop.
Blending the paint from the damaged area onto the original paint results in a superior color matched repair.
Also, I didn't see any time listed for color matching the paint. Even if the shop orders the correct color or has a paint store color match it, the color is still going to be off and needs to be color matched by the painter to get it as close of a match for a good blend.
I would go to another body shop and ask them about color matching and blending. If they don't know how to color match or blend, go to another shop. These are standard skills in any respectable body shop.
Melting Slicks
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From: walkersville md
Originally Posted by Perfusion
I have never heard of 42.00 an hour for labor... Wherever they're finding a shop with those rates, I wanna know so I can go there from now on.
LOL omg dude.....thts kinda funny.....thts gonna say BANKRUPT very SOON lol 42$ aint even close to what my shop charges.....try 60/hr. and if you want a resto job its 90/hr.....high dollar for top services. that shop will find out soon...then itll be too late
Last edited by Hippiehead025; Oct 10, 2004 at 07:15 PM.
Melting Slicks
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From: Dover NH
Originally Posted by Hippiehead025
high dollar for top services. that shop will find out soon...then itll be too late
Unless...
Some shops use book hours, then give a break on the hourly charge to make it look better. (they know they can do the job quicker than book)
Also, why would they go out of business for charging less an hour? I guess I would rather be the shop charging less an hour and having plently of work rather than charging much more an hour and waiting for work.
Melting Slicks
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From: Lancaster PA
Originally Posted by mitymek
This includes: Body Labor of 19 hrs. @ $42.00 per — Paint Labor of 7.6 hrs.
@ $42.00 per and Paint Supplies of 7.6 hrs. @ $22.00 per.
estimate sounds about right to me but thats about a bizarre way to break the labor cost down.
what is it? 19 hrs of repair and prep
7.6 hrs of painting and 7.6 hrs of mixing paint?
i dunno,doesnt seem over priced but if its gonna take him 34.2 hrs to fix a quarter panel and only get 13 hundred bucks for it including materials i doubt he will be in buiseness long.
maybe hes counting cure time or something.just looks weird to me,but the figure sounds bout right.
just had a door fixed on a 99 gm p.u. at work that ran 1500 bucks and it was just a white work truck.nothin nice.
@ $42.00 per and Paint Supplies of 7.6 hrs. @ $22.00 per.
estimate sounds about right to me but thats about a bizarre way to break the labor cost down.
what is it? 19 hrs of repair and prep
7.6 hrs of painting and 7.6 hrs of mixing paint?
i dunno,doesnt seem over priced but if its gonna take him 34.2 hrs to fix a quarter panel and only get 13 hundred bucks for it including materials i doubt he will be in buiseness long.
maybe hes counting cure time or something.just looks weird to me,but the figure sounds bout right.
just had a door fixed on a 99 gm p.u. at work that ran 1500 bucks and it was just a white work truck.nothin nice.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Jun 2003
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From: Henderson NV
Similar damage to my Ruby last year cost just under $1,200. I personally believe that was excessive, but what's a guy to do? BTW, they did do a beautiful job and the repair is guaranteed as long as I own the car. The thing that made me most nervous was that they had to remove the rear bumber, but I have seen no harm to it. The body shop was Frank's Auto Body Shop in Henderson, NV. The amount of labor hours does boggle the mind a bit; they had the Ruby for five days, so..??? 
I was a nervous wreck, totally, until I got her back!
I was a nervous wreck, totally, until I got her back!