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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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This happen to me on the way home from work on x-mas day.


The bearing did not freeze up. It will still turn.
The wheel was held on to the car by the rotor and calpier.
Fun night....

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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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Don't look like my idea of a fun night
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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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Unless my eyes deceive me, the hub's fine. The spindle broke, right?
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 12:18 AM
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Gauuuuud!!! You got my attention--I'm looking for an '89!

I'd be interested in knowing the actual failure mode. If it failed in torsion from a torque overload, the fracture area will have a 45 degree helically angled surface form. If it failed by bending fatigue, you should see a basically flat progressive area of "shiney" metal, perhaps with an obviously rusted or weathered area where a crack started on the OD, followed by the final torsion failue with it's characteristic 45 degree final break. Hardness testing and microstructure examination would also be appropriate to get a good idea of the primary cause. Close-up pics would be good. If you like, let me know and I'll send you the shipping money to send it to me. If so, try not to mechanically damage the broken surfaces. Do you know if that's a GM original or an aftermarket unit? Sure hope that was a fluke!!

I never liked those "packaged" bearings--I've been toying with the idea of converting them to the old standard "Timken" style that last forever with a little care. That's way down the road though, gotta get the car first!

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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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holy cow the shaft broke without trashing the bearing you didnt hit something?
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 12:45 AM
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DAMN!
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 12:48 AM
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that is uber-scary, dude. glad you didn't hurt yourself or your car.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 12:51 AM
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http://www.ong-inc.com/car/vett/DSC01421.JPG here is another pic

Front what I can tell it my have a few stress cracks. Very hard to see. The break is almost a 45 degree angle but the wheel part is concave slighly and the hub part is convex. The center looks like its been snapped. not smooth as the outter.

My thoughts on this was to buy 2 new hubs today after I took the front apart.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 12:58 AM
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Gauuuuud!!! You got my attention--I'm looking for an '89!

I'd be interested in knowing the actual failure mode. If it failed in torsion from a torque overload, the fracture area will have a 45 degree helically angled surface form. If it failed by bending fatigue, you should see a basically flat progressive area of "shiney" metal, perhaps with an obviously rusted or weathered area where a crack started on the OD, followed by the final torsion failue with it's characteristic 45 degree final break. Hardness testing and microstructure examination would also be appropriate to get a good idea of the primary cause. Close-up pics would be good. If you like, let me know and I'll send you the shipping money to send it to me. If so, try not to mechanically damage the broken surfaces. Do you know if that's a GM original or an aftermarket unit? Sure hope that was a fluke!!

I never liked those "packaged" bearings--I've been toying with the idea of converting them to the old standard "Timken" style that last forever with a little care. That's way down the road though, gotta get the car first!
No rust marks.
I got this hub from Rockauto.com or Katco (Parts House). They use the same parts.

I would also like to know what caused this. Im thinking it was a bad casting or metal compounds.

If you want me to send it let me know where is going.

My roommate saw my hub and went with me to the autoparts store. He bought 2 hubs for his WS6

BTY: the hub is on the ground and on the spindle.

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Unless my eyes deceive me, the hub's fine. The spindle broke, right?
The hub is on the floor and spindle
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Originally Posted by Corvette Kid NC
Unless my eyes deceive me, the hub's fine. The spindle broke, right?
The hub is on the floor and on the spindle
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 01:14 AM
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wow it looks like the bearing froze up and the turing force of the car snapped the shaft, but if the bearing did not freeze...
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Wow! That is scary...I'm glad you and the car didn't get hurt.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 04:46 PM
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Holy smokes Todd glad you're OK!

Was there any collateral damage?
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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Can't say that I have ever seen one do that without the bearing being seized.


Hope there wasn't any other damage to your car.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:06 PM
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Glad you're okay Todd. That could be very nasty. If you happen to discover the mode of failure, please share it with us.
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I'm fine. I was a shock to see in the morning when I took it a part.

Damage: Rim had some shavings inside the rim and the weights were knocked off. The rotor has a nice deep mark and some marks on the calpier.

I did this when I was on turning on Homes to Wentor
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Is that duct tape I see on the cooling hose?
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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Yep. Thats duck tape. The duck tape prolongs the life of the plastic...
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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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Not saying anything but by the looks of your set-up..Do you autocross?
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