I'm thinking about switching my K&N filter back to paper...What do ya,ll think............

 

why ?????

 

I think its your car, do what you want.

I wouldnt.

 

I was reading on the forum there bad about messing up MAP sensor,don't really do anything, pain it the butt to clean and oil..

 

K&N wont do anything to the MAP, if you overoil it then it can screw up the MAF.

Which is why I let mine dry for a day when I clean & oil it.

 

 

 

I've been using one in {my} '87 for over {4} years w/o any problems. Clean & oil it per instructions and always let it dry before putting it back in -- usually over night.

 

I recently took out my MAF and it was very dirty... I've used a K&N for the last 70K miles.. I cant say its the K&Ns fault, but I feel more comfortable with a filter than doesnt have oil on it and doesn't let as much debris through. The car is also driven in a very dusty enviornment so I'm using a paper filter now.

 

The ultimate decision whether to use a K&N or a conventional paper filter rests on your shoulders. They both have their pros and cons. If you have a stock motor, do not dragrace, and don't intend on modifying your engine, I suggest that you go with the A/C filter. It is a little more restrictive with the air flow, but it will keep more contaminants out.

Those that race or have high HP motors and want every bit of HP from their motor that they can muster use every trick in the book. And the K&N has been proven to flow more air than most filters on the market. But the downside is that it does allow more contaminants in. These contaminants will most likely never do any harm to your engine as they will probably be burned in the combustion chamber. Simply keep a watchful eye on your filter and if it gets dirty, do not deviate and clean it as per the instructions dictate. Do not over oil as this can cause many problems. It's just like a gun. Too much oil is no good. You must use the right amount. Let it dry overnight and you're in business.

 

I have run my car at the strip with 3 different paper filters, a foam filter and a k&n. I also ran the car w/no filter. Et's and mph stayed the same. I like the k&n because I am cheap and do not care to change paper often. Choice is yours though.

 

Oil doesn't dry btw. Over-oiling will coat your MAF, its bee pretty well documented.

It's also been pretty well documented that people will believe anything they read on the forum and tell ten others.

 

Of course oil doesn't dry. But, if you let it sit over night, and as long as you didn't over-oil, it will soak into the pores of the filter and therefore the likelihood of oil being thrust onto other parts, such as the MAF are greatly lessened. This is what other forum members have stated and have done so correctly.

I do not think people will believe anything or everything they read on this forum. Each and every person is an individual and making a blanket statement like you did insults many. What people believe is dependent on numerous factors, such as their education, knowledge on the subject at hand, their innate gullability and I could go on and on.

Your statement, in my opinion causes members to shy away from participating in this forum and even if their knowledge or technical expertise might not be as extensive or exact as yours, they might have an idea that you hadn't thought of and will think twice about sharing for fear that someone like you will tear them apart.

If someone makes a mistake, politely inform the member and by doing so, other readers will understand the writer was wrong and then give an explanation as to the correct answer. No harm, no foul.

You said, "It's also been pretty well documented that people will believe anything they read on the forum and tell ten others." [/QUOTE] I believe this is a grave insult to the members' intelligence.

I recently wrote an incorrect statement and was chastised. The member's response could have been a little more compassionate. Yes I made a mistake, but it wouldn't have led to catastrophic results. I didn't refer to the purchase of a particular cam or valve, etc. It had nothing to do with the inner workings of an engine and it really was not a big deal.

I know this is rather long, but if someone errs, give them a break. They're trying to help others. Plenty of knowledgeable forum members read this forum on a daily basis and if a member incorrectly states something, I'm confident someone will be able to correctly and politely point out the mistake.

I purposely wrote this a little strong because I wanted you to feel what it was like to be on the receiving end. I meant no disrespect; I only meant it as a learning tool.

 

That's right! People will believe anything with a statistic associated with it... 93% of all people know that.

It's ironic that all the statisticians I know are the most skeptical people in the world. (I work at a university, so yes I do know multiple statisticians)

 

Anybody with half a brain knows statistics can be skewed in the direction the writer wants. It's up to the reader to sift through all the B.S. and recognize what is fact and fiction. In today's times, statistics mean nothing without hard uncontrovertable proof (not more statistics or statements).

Before I believe something as fact, it must be proven to me, not shown.

 

I can't think of one reason to make the switch. I drive 50 miles a day and have 89000 on the clock. Why switch from a K & N?

 

I'll make it simple for you. Daily driver=OEM paper filter, Racing=K&N

Paper filters better and K&N lets more air flow.

 

So I guess some of that oil just magically disappears when I let it sit out in 100F heat for a day? Dont tell me we've discovered a material that will stay like it is forever and ever, that oil is soaking into the gauze material and the heat is pushing any of the water left from cleaning out and the oil in. It gives the oil time to soak in, and most excess will drip onto whatever you have sitting under the filter, in my case a paper towel.

If you know how to follow directions, you wont over-oil it anyway.

 

That's the whole point of the red die. And it doesn't mean to spackle the filter until its cherry red, but I think thats where some people go wrong.

 

Thanks for all of the threads...After reading the pros and cons I've decided to keep the K&N....