Ordered my Keisler---Input please?
Thread Starter
Drifting
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,453
Likes: 0
From: crystalriver Florida
Ordered my Keisler---Input please?
Just ordered my Tremec 500 tranny this morning for $3150 shipped--included the polished hurst shortthrow shifter with polished ball handle, Course it will take 8-10 weeks which stinks. I'm not very familair, but will this tranny give more hp to the wheels? Here are the gears in order
1st-3.27 2nd-1.98 3rd-1.34 4th-1.0 5th-.68
Also I need more input on performance, I have no idea what a stall converter is, but would it be inside the tranny or is it something I can order seperately for more performance? All input welcome....thanks
1st-3.27 2nd-1.98 3rd-1.34 4th-1.0 5th-.68
Also I need more input on performance, I have no idea what a stall converter is, but would it be inside the tranny or is it something I can order seperately for more performance? All input welcome....thanks
Last edited by chillcat; Feb 28, 2005 at 05:46 PM.
Drifting
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,638
Likes: 3
Same one I ordered - mine is supposed to be in this week. I'll take pictures and keep you informed.
I will give more HP to the rear wheel if you were replacing an autotrans - but in your case it simply gives you a beefier more functional unit - capable of taking much more power than the 4+3.
I will give more HP to the rear wheel if you were replacing an autotrans - but in your case it simply gives you a beefier more functional unit - capable of taking much more power than the 4+3.
Originally Posted by chillcat
Just ordered my Tremec 500 tranny this morning for $3150 shipped--included the polished hurst shortthrow shifter with polished ball handle, Course it will take 8-10 weeks which stinks. I'm not very familair, but will this tranny give more hp to the wheels? Here are the gears in order
1st-3.27 2nd-1.98 3rd-1.34 4th-1.0 5th-.68
Also I need more input on performance, I have no idea what a stall converter is, but would it be inside the tranny or is it something I can order seperately for more performance? All input welcome....thanks
1st-3.27 2nd-1.98 3rd-1.34 4th-1.0 5th-.68
Also I need more input on performance, I have no idea what a stall converter is, but would it be inside the tranny or is it something I can order seperately for more performance? All input welcome....thanks
Melting Slicks
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 3,270
Likes: 26
From: Winchester VA
Cruise-In V Veteran
1st-3.27 2nd-1.98 3rd-1.34 4th-1.0 5th-.68
Also I need more input on performance, I have no idea what a stall converter is, but would it be inside the tranny or is it something I can order seperately for more performance?
Nice to see they offer a short throw kit.
That thing should handle whatever you throw at it
Corvette Stories
The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972
Joe Kucinski
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!
Michael S. Palmer
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!
Joe Kucinski
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter
Joe Kucinski
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)
Joe Kucinski
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!
Brett Foote
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!
Michael S. Palmer
Race Director
Joined: Feb 1999
Posts: 12,772
Likes: 17
From: Indianapolis IN
Originally Posted by chillcat
is that bad, to have a short 1st gear--should I call the company and change it somehow ? I should be pushing close to 400 hp I believe after the mods are done to engine
http://www.5speedtransmissions.com/tr-3550.html
Safety Car
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,397
Likes: 0
From: Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffin glue Orlando
Yep, it all depends on what you want to accomplish. I have the 2.xx ratio in the Richmond, that and the 2.59 gears are too much. I don’t want to sacrifice the cruising RPM so I can’t go too tall in the dana.
If I would have known ahead of time that the 2.xx first gear was to tall the 3.xx first would have been the perfect setup with the 2.59’s
Not to worry because I believe the switch to a 3.07 diff will correct all this.
If I would have known ahead of time that the 2.xx first gear was to tall the 3.xx first would have been the perfect setup with the 2.59’s
Not to worry because I believe the switch to a 3.07 diff will correct all this.
Team Owner
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 81,241
Likes: 3,063
From: altered state
St. Jude Donor '05
Originally Posted by chillcat
is that bad, to have a short 1st gear--should I call the company and change it somehow ? I should be pushing close to 400 hp I believe after the mods are done to engine
Melting Slicks
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 3,270
Likes: 26
From: Winchester VA
Cruise-In V Veteran
Originally Posted by chillcat
is that bad, to have a short 1st gear--should I call the company and change it somehow ? I should be pushing close to 400 hp I believe after the mods are done to engine
The ZF6 is 2.68 to 1.8.
It just seems a to be a big gap, I'd hate to see the engine drop too far down the RPM range. My subarban does this and its very frustrating, it goes good and then falls on its face when it shifts into 2nd. Keep in mind, they are the experts and this is my observation. I would call Kiesler and Richmond with your engine specs, (redline, "powerband" and rear gear ratio) and get a specific recommendation. Richmond has a bunch of ratios to choose from, I did not see that on Kiesler's site.
Melting Slicks
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 3,270
Likes: 26
From: Winchester VA
Cruise-In V Veteran
Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
The low first gear will be fine if you have the typical 2.59 or 3.07 first gear. Its designed to get you out of the hole. The other four gears are fairly close ratio.
Melting Slicks
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 3,270
Likes: 26
From: Winchester VA
Cruise-In V Veteran
Originally Posted by IBEAM700
My Richmond ratios:
1st Gear = 2.77
2nd Gear = 1.88
3rd Gear = 1.52
4th Gear = 1.19
5th Gear = 1.00
6th Gear = 0.52
1st Gear = 2.77
2nd Gear = 1.88
3rd Gear = 1.52
4th Gear = 1.19
5th Gear = 1.00
6th Gear = 0.52
I have 3.73 rear which is just ridiculous, going back to 3.07 where it was perfect.
Safety Car
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 4,397
Likes: 0
From: Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffin glue Orlando
Sometimes I find the first to second ratio to close. (For my liking anyway) I shift from first to third and really like that big ratio change. 
Now I understand for drag racing or road racing it may not be ideal, but to each their own.
Ultimately if I had my choice of any Trans it would be a 4-speed overdrive with ratios something like 3.00, 2.00, 1.00, and .50
Now I understand for drag racing or road racing it may not be ideal, but to each their own.Ultimately if I had my choice of any Trans it would be a 4-speed overdrive with ratios something like 3.00, 2.00, 1.00, and .50
Team Owner
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 81,241
Likes: 3,063
From: altered state
St. Jude Donor '05
Originally Posted by RainDelay
I agree with the first gear but I think you instantly lose the effect of a better rear gear as soon as you shift into second. You go back to stock ratios designed for a 5000PM motor.
Same curse as the 1-2 drop of the 700 R
Safety Car
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 3,524
Likes: 4
From: Hinckley Ohio
Originally Posted by chillcat
Here are the gears in order
1st-3.27 2nd-1.98 3rd-1.34 4th-1.0 5th-.68
1st-3.27 2nd-1.98 3rd-1.34 4th-1.0 5th-.68
1st to 2nd shift.....1.98/3.27=0.6055....If shift at 6000rpm you will drop to 3633rpm
2nd to 3rd shift.....1.34/1.98=0.677...If you shift at 6000rpm you will drop to 4060rpm
3rd to 4th shift......1.00/1.34=0.746.....If you shift at 6000 rpm you will drop to 4477 rpm
4th to 5th shift.....0.68/1.00=0.68.....If you shift at 6000 rpm you will drop to 4080 rpm
My first impression is that this is a pretty screwed up set of ratios.....
Under the above scenerio you would go from 3633rpm to 6000rpm in second....4060rpm to 6000rpm in 3rd.....4477th to 6000rpm in 4th.....and back to 4080 should you shift to 5th...
BTW I need to think about this more....at first I was comparing to my ZF6.....but after thinking a little more.... deeper 1st & 2nd gears is exactly what GM did for the Z06.....
Last edited by LT4BUD; Mar 1, 2005 at 11:41 AM.
Thread Starter
Drifting
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,453
Likes: 0
From: crystalriver Florida
Hey should I worry about getting a new clutch or performance clutch to go along with this new setup? I have a new master/slave cylinder already, or would I be ok without replacing ?
Melting Slicks
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 3,270
Likes: 26
From: Winchester VA
Cruise-In V Veteran
Originally Posted by chillcat
Hey should I worry about getting a new clutch or performance clutch to go along with this new setup? I have a new master/slave cylinder already, or would I be ok without replacing ?