Which air intake to use?
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Which air intake to use?
I tried searching and didnt get any good results. I have a 94 lt1. I was debating on a whole new air intake or just a drop-in K&N. does it make a difference. I know on my lexus sc400 the factory airbox is actually more efficient. I was looking at the power pack from mid america and trying to see if its worth it. Give me your $0.02 please
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From: San Jose Pat Tillman - American Hero
My opinion is that anything more than a drop-in K&N filter with an open lid (whether you cut your stock lid or buy an aftermarket one) is a waste of $$$. There are some expensive, true "ram-air" systems available that either draw air directly from under the nose or through the front license plate area, but they are difficult to dyno test. All in all, save your money for down the road. The K&N will do ya' just fine. 
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From: Deer Park NY
I just purchased an SLP TRI CLAW air intake, according to them they say an extra 22 HP will be gotten from it, yeah I know most likely not but you will probably get the most out of all of the ones offerd. ALSO it does look the BEST out of all of them under the hood COOL!!! 
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I would buy the SLP for the Bling factor, but a few guys at the track have not got any improvement over stock.
The K&N won't necessarily free up any HP, but it is warranted for 1,000,000 miles and that alone is worth buying one.
The K&N won't necessarily free up any HP, but it is warranted for 1,000,000 miles and that alone is worth buying one.
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I dont think the million mile warranty is worth anything... I use a paper filter with that open lid thing that mid america sells, so the whole air filter is totally open. I had a K&N, took it out and replaced with filter. Didnt notice any performance loss. The stock vette paper filter is huge and will flow plenty.
Ill stick to my theory--- the air intake restriction in cars are usually always the shape, or path of the intake. Making it big smooth and straight is the best way to go
Ill stick to my theory--- the air intake restriction in cars are usually always the shape, or path of the intake. Making it big smooth and straight is the best way to go
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From: Exit 89 GSP,Lakewood,NJ The Land Of Mojo
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Originally Posted by OdinsRage
I dont think the million mile warranty is worth anything...
There is no performance loss or gain with the K&N or any other filter out there.
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Originally Posted by legendzzz
I just purchased an SLP TRI CLAW air intake, according to them they say an extra 22 HP will be gotten from it, yeah I know most likely not but you will probably get the most out of all of the ones offerd. ALSO it does look the BEST out of all of them under the hood COOL!!!
But you are right, the claw does look way cooler!
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
The paper filter has WAYYY more pleats than K&N, but it's probably not a fair comparison, the cotton gauze seems like it can handle more airflow efficiently.
They only reason I run a K&N is because it's basically required with the L98 SLP kit.
I dunno what's available for your LT1, but IMHO, any "upgrade" that still draws from under the hood is a waste of money. The claw is pretty, but I don't see any benefit to it. Even the stock one kind of draws from under the front of the car.
They only reason I run a K&N is because it's basically required with the L98 SLP kit.
I dunno what's available for your LT1, but IMHO, any "upgrade" that still draws from under the hood is a waste of money. The claw is pretty, but I don't see any benefit to it. Even the stock one kind of draws from under the front of the car.
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From: Vacaville CA
HUMMM cold air intakes must make a diff
well if cold air ram intakes dont make a difference then Y do all street bikes now use them and the boss mustang and the new zo6 and many other cars that grab outside air vs. hot air in the engine area??? I have one that u cut out the bottom, which i replaced the drop in K&N and it felt smoother and faster to me than the K&N. I understand all the skeptics but we all know cold air is better than hot air, plus i noticed about 15 more miles per tank full of gas
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The truth is they do make a difference and gm and ford know this, look at an SS camaro vs a z28 and a WS6 firebird vrs a regular trans AM, only difference is ram air setup and they claim more hp from the factory plus the track times are improved.
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Forget dyno runs with different filters. I used to run a 97 trans am regularly and made well over 100 passes with it. I wanted to see if the K&N drop in filter made any difference. I brought both to the track and ran about 10 or 12 runs, half with the K&N and half with the paper filter. Every single run with the K&N was a tenth quicker, regardless of the cool down time between runs. I kept it even by doing different cool down times but the same for each filter, i.e. 2 runs each with no cool down time, 2 runs each with 30 min, etc. Keep in mind, this wasn't the cold air intake they sell for f-bodies, just the drop in filter.
I don't think a tenth is anything you'll feel on the street, but for someone scratching for every bit of time at the track, it's definately worth it.
Chris
I don't think a tenth is anything you'll feel on the street, but for someone scratching for every bit of time at the track, it's definately worth it.
Chris
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From: Phoenix AZ
Originally Posted by ot180
I tried searching and didnt get any good results. I have a 94 lt1. I was debating on a whole new air intake or just a drop-in K&N. does it make a difference. I know on my lexus sc400 the factory airbox is actually more efficient. I was looking at the power pack from mid america and trying to see if its worth it. Give me your $0.02 please
http://www.corvetteramair.com/
But I only paid $150 for mine...I don't think it's worth the $495 that they charge!
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From: San Diego , CA Double Yellow DirtBags 1985..Z51..6-speed
Originally Posted by Zix
I have the intake system that basically flips the stock airbox over to grab air from under the radiator shroud, rather than taking air from the engine bay. Is there a performance increase?
Once you get moving, I don't see an issue.
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From: Phoenix AZ
Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
The problem i see with this, is especially at idle with the a/c on, you're pulling air from the surface of the a/c condensor, which is HOT.
Once you get moving, I don't see an issue.
Once you get moving, I don't see an issue.
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Originally Posted by Mr Mojo
The point is, you don't have to ever buy a new filter ever again.
There is no performance loss or gain with the K&N or any other filter out there.
There is no performance loss or gain with the K&N or any other filter out there.
The cleaning and re-oil kit is like 12 dollars, the cost of a paper filter!
Why not just negate the risk of getting oil all over your MAF wires, and letting in lots of dirt, and get a paper filter?
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From: Hinckley Ohio
Originally Posted by Mr Mojo
The point is, you don't have to ever buy a new filter ever again.
There is no performance loss or gain with the K&N or any other filter out there.
There is no performance loss or gain with the K&N or any other filter out there.
While you don't have to ever buy a new filter you DO have to buy a cleaning/oiling kit.......and most importantly there have been several stories now of people getting into trouble with their MAF by leaving too much oil on the cleaned filter...
My current thinking is that if there is no gain, then why not just use the OEM style filter and simply replace it with NO risk of damaging your MAF.....also cleaning takes a lot more time than just a simple change out...
I keep looking at my SLP triple snorkle K&N's and the K&N cleaning kit on my garage shelf.......think about it.......just keep driving as is.....too lazy and a little nervous about cleaning/oiling....one day I even did a no/no & blew them off with the air hose......
Geez I really don't know, just some thoughts....
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just thought i would throw in my two cents. i have a sotck lid that i cut open myself to expose ALL of the filter. i have a high performance WIX filter that i like a lot. i dont like the idea of oiling a K&N and maybe ruining ur MAF. The wix filter doesnt cost that much and i get it at wholesale. i think way down the raod i will get a A/O forced air intake as i have sen dyno results with that i am pleased with but even then i will probably use a wix filter.
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From: Vacaville CA
OMG talk about extreme
maybe if you dunk your filter in oil that will happen, but if you spray it like it saids till it turns alittle red you wont have a problem, its usually people who dont follow directions that give products a bad name, like installing nitrous to work with buttons and pressing them without WOT.....