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Old May 23, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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how much blow by should a 383 with 1000 miles on it have???
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Old May 23, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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how much blow by should a 383 with 1000 miles on it have???

Some engines have a little more than others. With 1000 miles your rings should be seated. I would ventilate thru the valve cover with a filter, and see how she does. There's lots of very strong running engines out there some show more some less. Concentrate on keeping the oil out of the combusion by ventilating how ever much you need.
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What grade of oil are you running ?
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Old May 24, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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how much blow by should a 383 with 1000 miles on it have???
The only way to know for sure what the state of your ring seal is, is to do a leakdown test. Compression checks will not work, unless you have a MAJOR problem.

With the engine components nowdays, plasmamoly rings and all, the seal is nearly instant the moment you start the motor up.

If you experiencing oil out the covers....chances are you have WAY too much oil in your crank case. Every pan I have measured, is about 2 quarts UNDER its spec'ed size. If you put in 6 quarts in a advertised 6 quart pan, the crank is swimming in the oil. Plus that makes for more crank case pressure.

Just some things to think about.
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Old May 24, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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Is the car still smoking and comsuming oil with the PCV disconnected?

As i mentioned in the other post, i had similar problems. My fresh 406 seems to have more blowby than my 90K 350 did, however a leakdown test shows only about 4% leakdown, so maybe it's my imagination or something. But i too, was pushing out a lot of oil until i reduced the amount of oil i was using and put the filter in the PCV line. The car uses very little oil in normal use now and is capable of running 10s in the 1/4 mile, but i've never really figured out why i was pulling so much oil from the valve covers.

I don't know if there is some way of measuring blowby. I know mine will puff smoke out of the valve covers at idle if the PCV is not connected (more so than the old 350). It's not the tightest engine i've ever seen, but it seems to be running ok and not consuming excess oil.
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Is the car still smoking and comsuming oil with the PCV disconnected?

As i mentioned in the other post, i had similar problems. My fresh 406 seems to have more blowby than my 90K 350 did, however a leakdown test shows only about 4% leakdown, so maybe it's my imagination or something. But i too, was pushing out a lot of oil until i reduced the amount of oil i was using and put the filter in the PCV line. The car uses very little oil in normal use now and is capable of running 10s in the 1/4 mile, but i've never really figured out why i was pulling so much oil from the valve covers.

I don't know if there is some way of measuring blowby. I know mine will puff smoke out of the valve covers at idle if the PCV is not connected (more so than the old 350). It's not the tightest engine i've ever seen, but it seems to be running ok and not consuming excess oil.
yup still smokin...lol
I have the pcv nd tb tube disconected and it did help but I still have alot of smoke, exspecialy if I let the car sit and idle for any amount of time.it seems the longer it idles the worse it gets.I think I have more than one issue here and hopefully I will get it figured out soon.
I have also done a leak down and every cylinder shows 2% to 4% leakage.my compression check showed 170lbs accross the board.does that seem about right for a 10.1 motor?also someone else mentioned that a leak down will not give me a accurate reading because the rings will be soaked in oil.If that was the case wouldnt they very from cylinder to cylinder?Also the car puffs steam out the pcv hole like a freight train..I have a filter where my oil cap should be and that even has a bit of steam/smoke coming out it..
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Sounds like you're sucking oil from some place else then. Did you say your plenum was also soaked with oil?
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Sounds like you're sucking oil from some place else then. Did you say your plenum was also soaked with oil?
yup the plenum and runners a soaked too.
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When i was pulling oil from the PCV, it was entering all the runners in the base. Since there is a lot of pulsation in the intake track, oil was splattering into the plenum.......however it was fairly clear that the source was from the lower base and not from the plenum area. Can you tell the source in your case? If it appears to be coming in from the plenum, you might have a breach into the EGR system. There are several plugs that go into the base of a tpi......is there a chance one if missing or loose?

Also, is your problem with one cyl in particular? In which case, the plenum is likely not the source.

Just throw'n out ideas.

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I removed the lower pan off the base for just that reason...everything looks fine there. and yes sir, it does seem to be entering the lower intake first...theres just to much to tell where it is entering from.the whole base is coated with a thin layer of fresh oil.
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also it is in 5 cylinders...2,4,6,8 and 7 seems to be the worst.now 1,3,and 5 cylinders are all burning clean...the plugs look perfect.
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aftermarket valve coves by any chance?

I know that my aftermarket ones do not have baffles and they get oil out of them and into the intake - just something I learned to live with. It is not real bad, but enough that you can see it.
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2,4,6,8 maybe the intake gasket shifted when you installed it. 1,3,5 clean and # 7 bad, maybe a bad valve seal.
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2,4,6,8 maybe the intake gasket shifted when you installed it. 1,3,5 clean and # 7 bad, maybe a bad valve seal.
yes they are aftermarket but they do have the baffles in them...I have also replaced all the seals and I have done the intake gasket 3 diffrent times now..the only reason I have done it that many is because of the oil in the ports and intake manifold.
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