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Old May 24, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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How can I tell if the center piece of my BBS wheels are Magnesium. I know a few of the same style of wheels have magnesium centers. the centers look a little dark to be aluminum
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Come on people no know how to tell the diff between aluminum and Magnesium
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Come on people no know how to tell the diff between aluminum and Magnesium
The best way I know to tell the difference is magnesium burns well if it gets hot enough, and if you add water, it burns better -- magnesium is used for underwater flares.

But, it would be a shame to burn your wheels to find out.


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A welding torch would let you know really quickly.
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Originally Posted by 88421VETTE
Come on people no know how to tell the diff between aluminum and Magnesium
One non-destructive test would be to get some aluminum of equal weight and see how much water is displaced by each sample. Pure magnesium has a density of 1.81 grams per cubic centimeter and aluminum density is 2.68 grams/cubic centimeter so magnesium will displace more water.

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Why not call BBS?
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Seriously, another way to tell, although not a convenient way, is to take the wheel and a piece of steel sheet metal and immerse them in salt water.
A simple one cell sea water battery can be made from two plates, one plate is magnesium and the other is steel -- the sea water is the electrolyte. This one cell battery will generate one volt.
If I remember correctly, the magnesium will be the anode (+) and the steel will be the cathode (-).
This single cell battery will slowly eat the magnesium away while working. So, don't use it to power a buoy for a month.

Years ago, I actually made a water proof fluorescent light (made from a circular fluorescent tube) that was powered from one of these single cell batteries. It used an inverter to step up the one volt to a level to power the light and germanium transistors (germanium saturation voltage is lower than silicon) for the inverter. Just throw it in the salt water and it would light -- under water.



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its pretty hard to tell, but one way if you have more then one hold them in each hand, and the mag one will be lighter then the AL ones.
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Many magnesium parts will be identified as such, say on the back.

Actually, there is a simple test. Apply a weak solution of Nitric acid to the material in question.
Any magnesium alloy will be blackened or turned gray by the solution, while an aluminum alloy will not be affected.


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Originally Posted by Tom Piper
Seriously, another way to tell, although not a convenient way, is to take the wheel and a piece of steel sheet metal and immerse them in salt water.
Hmmmm the guy lives in Utah. Unless he's right near the great salt lake he's going to have a bit of a time finding "sea water" no?

Another idea might be to take a knife and see if you can slice a small sliver of metal off of the back of one wheel and then try the blowtorch test. Hopefully with a very small amount it will ignite fairly easily and not cause any problem.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Peabody
Hmmmm the guy lives in Utah. Unless he's right near the great salt lake he's going to have a bit of a time finding "sea water" no?
I did say, "Not convenient."

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Originally Posted by Mr. Peabody
Hmmmm the guy lives in Utah. Unless he's right near the great salt lake he's going to have a bit of a time finding "sea water" no?

Another idea might be to take a knife and see if you can slice a small sliver of metal off of the back of one wheel and then try the blowtorch test. Hopefully with a very small amount it will ignite fairly easily and not cause any problem.
Actually we have the Great Salt lake has twice the percentage of salt as the ocean I think it's 6%. But my wheels have serial numbers and stuff on them I think I'll do some research
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