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Old May 27, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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i called up the website and the guy said the 6054 kit should work but was a reflector headlight HID system the XP6054 systen is a projector headlight system that puts out 4 times as much light as the other HID system he said and he thinks it will work on C4s cause you can mount the ballast somewhere other than the headlight itself. although the projector kit is definatly pricey i think i am starting to understand the difference in reflector HID kits and projector HID kits.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ALLT4
Siverstars here, cleaned the connectors, used some dielectric good to go. The low beams are so bright I never need high beams, and I live out in the boonies with lots of deer. No problem seeing them with only low beams.

I did adjust them up a bit though because as stated earlier the high beams seemed to shoot for the trees. So I figured as bright as the low beams were I'd just use them only.
I agree. I have oem HID on my 2003 Maxima SE and I never use the Hi beams as the low is just so bright
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Old May 27, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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I was going to completely bash your decision to go with XENARCS 6054 series after I posted my opinion of them, but after I looked at those headlamps, they are entirely different and might work.

The achilles heel of my X6054 Xenarc system was'nt the light source, but was the poorly designed reflector. The reason why it was poorly designed was because it was contracted out to a taiwanese outfit that made interior light reflectors and had no experience with headlight reflectors.

Even though I think that reflector would look 'alien' on a C4, if they got their act together and straightened it out with a proper optically designed projector system then it might work.

Good luck.
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Old May 27, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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I agree. I have oem HID on my 2003 Maxima SE and I never use the Hi beams as the low is just so bright

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that is bull crap. You need high beams.

My 04 BMW 330 has HID high beams that pop upwards slightly to illuminate down the road when you hit the high beam switch.

If they didnt then Id be stuck with only a 200 feet max area in front of me that was illuminated.

I cant imagine driving without high beams.

Anything over that cutoff is in darkness, flip the high beam switch and its a whole new world.
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Old May 28, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by tjwong
Thats a great job, how was it to get the Sylvanias to fit correctly?
The entire front bumper had to be removed. Then, the styrofoam bumper support. Then, the foglight/indicator brackets had to be removed. The foglight reflector was removed with a Sawzall, revealing the backside to the lens. The plastic bracket support was also cut, allowing the XENARC foglights to be installed behind the factory foglight lens (now possible with the foglight reflector removed).

Cost was time only. My friend donated the XENARC HID's after he took them off of his Jetta. Initially, the foglights were rediculously high, but after aiming they cast off a serious amount of light. MIND YOU, they DON'T shine very far down the road (thanks to the factory foglight lens) but they still do their job well.

Now, because my headlights look SO yellow, I'll probably switch to Silverstars instead of an H4 kit with "blue" bulbs due to what people are saying here.
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Old May 28, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Piper
Anybody know how high the voltage is for HID?
To ignite the arc, it will take 10-30kV. However once the arc is stable, it only draws 10's of volts (20-30 sounds about right). This is true for all of the arc lamps I have worked with (xenon, mercury-halide, etc).
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Old May 29, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by zeitgeist57
The entire front bumper had to be removed. Then, the styrofoam bumper support. Then, the foglight/indicator brackets had to be removed. The foglight reflector was removed with a Sawzall, revealing the backside to the lens. The plastic bracket support was also cut, allowing the XENARC foglights to be installed behind the factory foglight lens (now possible with the foglight reflector removed).

Cost was time only. My friend donated the XENARC HID's after he took them off of his Jetta. Initially, the foglights were rediculously high, but after aiming they cast off a serious amount of light. MIND YOU, they DON'T shine very far down the road (thanks to the factory foglight lens) but they still do their job well.

Now, because my headlights look SO yellow, I'll probably switch to Silverstars instead of an H4 kit with "blue" bulbs due to what people are saying here.
how did u aim the foglights? can u remove that factory fog light lens since you have the fascia off anyway and maybe put a different lens in there so they shine further away?
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Old May 30, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ninetyfivevette
To ignite the arc, it will take 10-30kV. However once the arc is stable, it only draws 10's of volts (20-30 sounds about right). This is true for all of the arc lamps I have worked with (xenon, mercury-halide, etc).
For that kind of voltage, even if it is momentary, it sounds like the insulation on the wire would have to be thick (like spark plug wire).
It would be interesting getting that through the rotating headlight assembly (some are saying it is difficult to get normal 12 gauge wire in there).
And, even if you did get it to install, how long would it be before the insulation were of no value at 30KV after being twisted a multitude of times?

I think there is a reason GM didn't put HID in the C4 or C5 with rotating lights.
Did GM go to HID with the C6?


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Originally Posted by Tom Piper
For that kind of voltage, even if it is momentary, it sounds like the insulation on the wire would have to be thick (like spark plug wire).
Typically it is exactally like a spark plug wire (thick silicone insulator).
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Old May 30, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dizwiz24
I agree. I have oem HID on my 2003 Maxima SE and I never use the Hi beams as the low is just so bright

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that is bull crap. You need high beams.

My 04 BMW 330 has HID high beams that pop upwards slightly to illuminate down the road when you hit the high beam switch.

If they didnt then Id be stuck with only a 200 feet max area in front of me that was illuminated.

I cant imagine driving without high beams.

Anything over that cutoff is in darkness, flip the high beam switch and its a whole new world.

Well I beg to differ with you there DizWiz; although I won't call your particular statement bull****; on the Maxima I do not need hi beams and never use them because frankly the HID lows are much brighter and light up the road better that the non-hid high beams. Then again I'm usually not driving above 70 MPH at night
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Old May 30, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Piper
I think there is a reason GM didn't put HID in the C4 or C5 with rotating lights.
There's a very good reason - the rules are very strict regarding HID due to the increased intensity and the requirement not to blind oncoming drivers. Thus the manufactures that fit them either have a static fixed system (such as the Nissan Maxima SE that only uses HID for low beam and a conventional bulb for high beam) or the Active system as used by Mercedes / BMW etc where the beam is motorized and moves between low and high and also has active damping that moves the beam as the vehicle is loaded etc.

For GM to have installed HIDs in the rotating headlamps of the C4/C5 would have meant highly elaborate rotating mechanisms to ensure that the pod was acurately positioned when opened etc - far too expensive. HIDs are fitted to the new C6 however as they now have fixed lamps.
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Old May 30, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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okay i love the look of those fog lights but I dont like the idea of cutting my car and changing from the factory wiring. I am putting the Silver stars in in place of my halogens but does anyone know if they make a white bulb that will match the white color of the headlights for the running lights?
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Old May 30, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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quote:

ere's a very good reason - the rules are very strict regarding HID due to the increased intensity and the requirement not to blind oncoming drivers. Thus the manufactures that fit them either have a static fixed system (such as the Nissan Maxima SE that only uses HID for low beam and a conventional bulb for high beam) or the Active system as used by Mercedes / BMW etc where the beam is motorized and moves between low and high and also has active damping that moves the beam as the vehicle is loaded etc.


Ok... I didnt mean to sound disrespectful to Mr. Peabody, Ive never driven a Maxima with HID (my beloved 95 Maxima SE 5spd....that I miss didnt have HID).

It sounds like theres different systems of HID's....

Some HIDs appear fixed (probably reflector based) and rely on additional illumination onto maybe another part of the reflector for additional down road lighting. So even with lows on, the HID reflector is still in position.

While some projector systems (like on my BMW) actually move the beam up and down...

(To the posterIf you dont care about hi-beams, it sounds like you are doing this for cosmetic reasons, other than for extreme down road lighting. Your car is a 160 MPH car, even though dangerous, it should be equipped to deal with those speeds.

Keep that in mind.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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okay guys,
Does anyone know if a white bulb is made for the front driving lights located beside the fog lights?
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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i wish i knew the answer to this as well. i would like to set my car up where the side marker light and the blinker lights are on bright when i turn my running lights on
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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i've looked thru the Silverstars book and web site a month or so ago.
Amber was the only thing available for turn/marker lamps. I even went as far as looking up 1057s, 1157s, 2057s and 3057s, amber only. It's not painted on either, it's part of the molding process for the bulb.
I emailed silverstar/sylvania, got a reply, that they were not, at this time, planning on a clear bulb. I asked Pep Boys, Advance and Autozone to see if they could get them ... nope.
They may have changed, I wouldn't bet on it.
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how do you aim the foglights?
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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anyone know where the best place to buy Bosch e-spec and CIBIE e-spec lenses are for H4 bulbs? i may try this with silverstar H4 bulbs before i dish out the money for HID headlights
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