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Old Jun 30, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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Picked up 1988 roller cam block for my 85. only problem was it was tbi.
will the heads work with my tpi. anyone out there done this?? What else have you run into. I do want to go to roller rockers and i will be replacing the cam no matter its condition. very low milage on 88. it was out of wreck. my 85 is bone stock. I have heads off 88 and valves are like new. No ridge in block at all.Looks like it could be run as is but it is going to machine shop for at least honing and a good clean up. Any suggestions ???
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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get yourself a pair of aluminum 113s... a little later vintage, but much better then the iron ones on your motor.

and used ones are cheap.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 01:07 AM
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I think he already has them, he stated he's got 88 heads so should be good improvement over those irons, especially with some RR's.

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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 01:14 AM
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yea, but the 88 was a TBI motor, not TPI... isn't there a difference there?

If not, use those heads.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bogus
yea, but the 88 was a TBI motor, not TPI... isn't there a difference there?

If not, use those heads.
Good point.... I'm not sure with a TBI motor
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 01:30 AM
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Huh???
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 01:31 AM
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Are you asking if a TPI manifold will fit on an 88 roller block/heads that originally had TBI? If that is your question, then the answer is yes. I dont see why they wouldn't. A smallblock is a smallblock
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Bilyk
Are you asking if a TPI manifold will fit on an 88 roller block/heads that originally had TBI? If that is your question, then the answer is yes. I dont see why they wouldn't. A smallblock is a smallblock
Also wondering if the heads off an 88 TBI he picked up would be 113 castings like on the Corvettes.
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I'm no expert (and can't find my interchange manual right now) but I don't think so. I don't think anything other than corvettes got corvette heads.
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your 85 intake manifold won't fit on 87+ heads, they have the revised bolt angle on the 2 center bolts on either side. You can elongate the manifold holes to make it fit. The TBI heads are probably the crappy "swirl port" heads, junk.
If you were to get a set of alumnium heads from a corvette you'd be able to keep your intake as is.
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 02:50 AM
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i ran heads from a 95 LT1 vette on my TBI motor, fit great and gave me a lot more torque
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Aren't the TBI engines ,truck engines like the Vortec?
Iron head / roller cam
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Originally Posted by Morley
your 85 intake manifold won't fit on 87+ heads, they have the revised bolt angle on the 2 center bolts on either side. You can elongate the manifold holes to make it fit. The TBI heads are probably the crappy "swirl port" heads, junk.
If you were to get a set of alumnium heads from a corvette you'd be able to keep your intake as is.
ohhhh yeah
he's right
my apologies
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Originally Posted by Morley
your 85 intake manifold won't fit on 87+ heads, they have the revised bolt angle on the 2 center bolts on either side. You can elongate the manifold holes to make it fit.

For the iron heads. Also, you will have to use the flywheel or flex plate from the '88. In 1986 Chevy went to the one piece rear main seal which changed the bolt pattern on the rear of the crank and the method of engine balance.

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PS. Vortec engines are not TPI. They are CPI. The Vortec was introduced in 1996.

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Thanks for the info. Been away from computer. Its deff a roller cam 88 with iron heads. When i get it done what would i have to do to ECM to carry the new flow or will 85 setup even start to handle it. The injectors are brand new 22lb. the rest is stock setup.
I have the flex plate and harmonic balancer from 88 so that should not be an issue. Anything else anyone can think of??
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Originally Posted by Fasterer
I have heads off 88 and valves are like new.
88 what? Corvette? Camaro? Ferrari? Buick? Grand Wagoneer?
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 12:12 PM
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All i know about the block i posted. I ran a search on the # and it shows chevy all as used in. I can post the block casting # if it would help. I picked it up to upgrade my 85. From previous info i can see the heads have to go. The block is being dipped and checked and new cam bearings and bored if all is well with it. I only gave my obsevation on condition as i had not much else to go on. it seems to heve lived a very short life. I was told it came out of a wreck and after seeing internal wear i believe it.
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88 vettes used the TPI
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rodj
Aren't the TBI engines ,truck engines like the Vortec?
Iron head / roller cam
depends - pre 96 motors were NOT vortech - i know this because the year after i bought my 95 chevy, they came out with the 275 HP vortech v8 in the 96 trucks!

you should just sell your 88 roller block and buy this
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=962577
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Old Jul 6, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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TBI engines were also put in caprices and camaros. I agree with the center intake bolts having the revised angles, the '85 intake "could" work on later heads, but like someone mentioned, there would need to be some grinding done. If you don't go too crazy with the cam (nothing with much more duration than stock) the ecm should run it OK, since it is a MAF setup, although you would probably need some tuning (tuning is a good idea anyway).

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